Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPF doesn't accommodate third level .name domains?

2022-05-31 Thread Douglas Foster
David's goal for the name registration is different from what Verisign intended. Here is what I have inferred: Verisign wants to sell personal identity PKI certificates to the masses, for use with S/MIMIE. A personal PKI certificate requires a subject name and an owner email address. "first.l

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPF doesn't accommodate third level .name domains?

2022-05-31 Thread John Levine
It appears that Scott Kitterman said: >>Is your position that Verisign should publish SPF records for the .name >>domains? > >If they intend them to be used in email, then I would say yes. If they intend >third level domain owners such as yourself send email >from external servers using the se

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPF doesn't accommodate third level .name domains?

2022-05-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 31, 2022 7:50:44 PM UTC, David Bustos wrote: >On Tue, May 31, 2022, at 1:33 PM, John R Levine wrote: >> On Tue, 31 May 2022, David Bustos wrote: Forwarding is pretty broken these days. Even if you had perfect SPF, a lot of your incoming mail would fail DMARC because a lo

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPF doesn't accommodate third level .name domains?

2022-05-31 Thread David Bustos
On Tue, May 31, 2022, at 1:33 PM, John R Levine wrote: > On Tue, 31 May 2022, David Bustos wrote: >>> Forwarding is pretty broken these days. Even if you had perfect SPF, a lot >>> of your incoming >>> mail would fail DMARC because a lot of DMARC policies depend on SPF and SPF >>> can't deal wit

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPF doesn't accommodate third level .name domains?

2022-05-31 Thread John R Levine
On Tue, 31 May 2022, David Bustos wrote: Forwarding is pretty broken these days. Even if you had perfect SPF, a lot of your incoming mail would fail DMARC because a lot of DMARC policies depend on SPF and SPF can't deal with forwarded mail. I'm talking about outgoing mail, not incoming mail.

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPF doesn't accommodate third level .name domains?

2022-05-31 Thread Dotzero
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:14 PM David Bustos wrote: > John wrote: > > It appears that Scott Kitterman said: > > >On May 30, 2022 9:50:05 PM UTC, David Bustos wrote: > > >>Since I own david.bustos.name, someone forwards da...@bustos.name for > me; I presume Verisign does. > > >> > > >>Lately I

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPF doesn't accommodate third level .name domains?

2022-05-31 Thread David Bustos
John wrote: > It appears that Scott Kitterman said: > >On May 30, 2022 9:50:05 PM UTC, David Bustos wrote: > >>Since I own david.bustos.name, someone forwards da...@bustos.name for me; I > >>presume Verisign does. > >> > >>Lately I think email receivers have been quarantining my messages and I

Re: [dmarc-ietf] SPF doesn't accommodate third level .name domains?

2022-05-31 Thread David Bustos
Scott wrote: > On May 30, 2022 9:50:05 PM UTC, David Bustos wrote: > >Since I own david.bustos.name, someone forwards da...@bustos.name for me; I > >presume Verisign does. > > > >Lately I think email receivers have been quarantining my messages and I > >suspect the reason is SPF. Specifically,