Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-22 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 22/Dec/2020 03:37:52 +0100 Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2020-12-21 18:27, Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Mon 21/Dec/2020 01:52:11 +0100 Benny Pedersen wrote: For the message I'm replying to, I got: Authentication-Results: wmail.tana.it;   spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ietf.org;   dkim=pass

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-21 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2020-12-21 18:27, Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Mon 21/Dec/2020 01:52:11 +0100 Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2020-12-20 23:07, Michael Thomas wrote: On 12/20/20 2:01 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: For the message I'm replying to, I got: Authentication-Results: wmail.tana.it; spf=pass

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-21 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Mon 21/Dec/2020 01:52:11 +0100 Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2020-12-20 23:07, Michael Thomas wrote: On 12/20/20 2:01 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: hopefully maillists stops dkim signing, its the incorrect place to solve breaking dkim Sorry, ARC is warmed over DKIM, and an experiment. DKIM is a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2020-12-20 23:07, Michael Thomas wrote: On 12/20/20 2:01 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: hopefully maillists stops dkim signing, its the incorrect place to solve breaking dkim Sorry, ARC is warmed over DKIM, and an experiment. DKIM is a full internet standard and expressly intended for lists,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-20 Thread Michael Thomas
On 12/20/20 2:01 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: hopefully maillists stops dkim signing, its the incorrect place to solve breaking dkim Sorry, ARC is warmed over DKIM, and an experiment. DKIM is a full internet standard and expressly intended for lists, etc to resign if they broke the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2020-12-20 19:13, John R Levine wrote: On Sun, 20 Dec 2020, Alessandro Vesely wrote: question is who steps up to provide such shared lists. Dnswl.org counts about 25K domains. I suppose one might try them but I expect most of them are not sending forwarded mail. only sending to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-20 Thread John R Levine
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020, Alessandro Vesely wrote: question is who steps up to provide such shared lists. Dnswl.org counts about 25K domains. I suppose one might try them but I expect most of them are not sending forwarded mail. I've finally gotten around to doing ARC checks in my SMTP daemon

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-20 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Sat 19/Dec/2020 21:50:34 +0100 Dotzero wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:50 PM John Levine wrote: In article <1e61f7c4-c6d2-5dab-dfc7-f1fd740e1...@tana.it> you write: Now my tiny MX stores 115,225 domains total. And I have no idea how I could add a trust-ARC-seals boolean field to each

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-19 Thread Dotzero
On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:50 PM John Levine wrote: > In article <1e61f7c4-c6d2-5dab-dfc7-f1fd740e1...@tana.it> you write: > >Now my tiny MX stores 115,225 domains total. And I have no idea how I > could > >add a trust-ARC-seals boolean field to each domain record. > > You wouldn't. Only a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] ARC vs p=quarantine

2020-12-19 Thread John Levine
In article <1e61f7c4-c6d2-5dab-dfc7-f1fd740e1...@tana.it> you write: >Now my tiny MX stores 115,225 domains total. And I have no idea how I could >add a trust-ARC-seals boolean field to each domain record. You wouldn't. Only a small fraction of those domains send enough forwarded mail to be