Re: [dmarc-discuss] a detour into S/MIME, was MLM and Header-From rewriting

2014-06-10 Thread John Levine via dmarc-discuss
>If your MUA shows you that this message is signed with a trusted >certificate, you're sorted. If you're in the minority (or so I believe) >for whom that isn't displayed, then boo; you're one of the few for whom >S/MIME signatures as a matter of course would achieve nothing. Gmail: shows the signa

Re: [dmarc-discuss] a detour into S/MIME, was MLM and Header-From rewriting

2014-06-10 Thread Rock, Paul via dmarc-discuss
Depends on the client as well. Currently the version of Outlook (2010) I'm using on my Windows box also treats the signature as an attachment it doesn't know what to do with. Mail.app (version 7.3) on my Mac does understand that David has a signature, but I have a big warning across the top of t

Re: [dmarc-discuss] a detour into S/MIME, was MLM and Header-From rewriting

2014-06-10 Thread David Woodhouse via dmarc-discuss
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 15:08 +, Rock, Paul via dmarc-discuss wrote: > Depends on the client as well. Currently the version of Outlook (2010) > I'm using on my Windows box also treats the signature as an attachment > it doesn't know what to do with. That's odd — that's one of the few things Out

Re: [dmarc-discuss] a detour into S/MIME, was MLM and Header-From rewriting

2014-06-10 Thread Rock, Paul via dmarc-discuss
The mail from you directly works fine in Outlook, showing up with the cert icon in the mail list. Mail.app doesn't seem to have any indicator of the signing, but it's not showing a warning either. Now, the really amusing thing is that when the mail from the listserv came in, it's "merged" with

Re: [dmarc-discuss] a detour into S/MIME, was MLM and Header-From rewriting

2014-06-19 Thread Rock, Paul via dmarc-discuss
Yes, but what I expect is that the cert fails due to email address miss match when comparing your cert to the list's address, not mine. PAUL ROCK Senior Programmer/Analyst | AOL Mail P: 703-265-5734 | C: 703-980-8380 AIM: paulsrock 44900 Prentice Dr. | Dulles, VA | 20166-9305 On Jun 10, 2014, at

Re: [dmarc-discuss] a detour into S/MIME, was MLM and Header-From rewriting

2014-06-19 Thread John Levine via dmarc-discuss
In article you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Yes, but what I expect is that the cert fails due to email address miss match >when comparing your cert to the >list's address, not mine. Right -- if the address in the S/MIME signature doesn't match the address on the From: line, t

Re: [dmarc-discuss] a detour into S/MIME, was MLM and Header-From rewriting

2014-07-04 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 19. jun. 2014 17.04.49 CEST, John Levine via dmarc-discuss wrote: >So more specifically, the workaround for DMARC breaks S/MIME. Sigh. yes, amavisd-new and postfix maillist let my dmarc get pass on my own domain, silly to see that dmarc maillists try to make non workelble workarounds on