Le 17/07/2015 21:38, ibid...@gmail.com a écrit :
KatolaZ:
>
> > > >You guys talk about supporting half a dozen init systems like it
> > > >was similar to providing half a dozen different editors, which
> > > >believe me is not quite the case.
This is true, because supporting an init system requ
Le 18/07/2015 06:58, Peter Olson a écrit :
On July 17, 2015 at 11:38 PM Gregory Nowak wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:16:06PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
Some might ask, Why not just one simple package?
That's where Devuan can bring packaging sanity in as well.
megabyte for example. Granted
On 18/07/2015 09:52, Didier Kryn wrote:
There are two categories of launchers: supervisors and
non-supervisors. Similarly, I think two scripts only are needed for
every daemon: one for launching without supervision, alla sysv-init
and one for launching from a supervisor. Just two, not one per eve
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:16:06PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
> I never said it was set in stone.
>
> All I suggested was if you install a package like SDL, then you install all
> of SDL, not just part of it. This reduces overhead of making multiple
> packages, simplifies the distribution, and m
On 18/07/2015 10:49, Laurent Bercot wrote:
>
> Believe me, providing sysv-rc compatibility when you're working on
> a supervision suite is no small feat: the paradigm is very different,
>
> . If it was easy, we would have provided compatibility packages
> long ago, and supervision wo
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 09:52:18AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
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> Further more, a method could be agreed on to tell the script if
> the daemon is going to be supervised or not, and we would then need
> only one script for all cases.
>
> For example, providing "supervised-start" an
On 18/07/2015 12:42, Fred DC wrote:
I am not saying that runit is better as s6 - all I want to point out is
that debian runit, until recently, intergrates fairly well with sysv-rc.
The reason why it does is that it compromises on supervision. I don't
know how debian runit is packaged, but I'm
Le 18/07/2015 12:43, KatolaZ a écrit :
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 09:52:18AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
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Further more, a method could be agreed on to tell the script if
the daemon is going to be supervised or not, and we would then need
only one script for all cases.
For example,
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:37:26AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:16:06PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
> > I never said it was set in stone.
> >
> > All I suggested was if you install a package like SDL, then you install all
> > of SDL, not just part of it. This reduces overhead
The boot scripts can be somewhat universal, but not always. Runit and s6
require some very special and specific service and boot scripts for init, plus
a lot of custom service scripts. These are what need the most attention. The
init stage scripts are going to be unique to each init system as we
Hello everybody,
When I tried to upgrade the packages on my PC to the ones from Devuan
jessie repository just now, the following ones got held back due to my
pinning preference.
root@hp8530w:~# dpkg --list accountsservice acpi-fakekey initscripts
libaccountsservice0 sysvinit sysvinit-utils u
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:35:20PM +0200, Anto wrote:
> As above, I am still using sysvinit from Debian wheezy. And I held
> util-linux to the above version. As far as I remember, I got problems using
> util-linux higher than that version. I forgot the exact the problems.
>
> What I am wondering i
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