Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread aitor_czr
El 08/02/16 a las 07:35, Hendrik Boom escribió: On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 02:00:26PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: >Hi, > >I did all necessary changes in the netman project to rename it to: >"easynetaid" which is unique on google. That is a good name. Simple, unique, and descriptive. I wish al

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Simon Wise
On 08/02/16 17:35, Adam Borowski wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:27:19PM +1100, Simon Wise wrote: My understanding is that both the rpi0 and rpi1 are based on a ARMv6 chip, which makes them closer to armel than to armhf. So, I'm afraid you're stuck with raspbian for now. raspbian is in betwe

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:27:19PM +1100, Simon Wise wrote: > >>My understanding is that both the rpi0 and rpi1 are based on a ARMv6 > >>chip, which makes them closer to armel than to armhf. So, I'm afraid > >>you're stuck with raspbian for now. > > raspbian is in between armel and armhf because d

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread Simon Wise
On 08/02/16 09:09, KatolaZ wrote: On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 10:49:48PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] If it is inly a matter of recompiling for armhf with the arm6 flag, shall we try to put together a devuan for arm6? ..yup, and it is worth the while starting from the Raspian Wheezy flavor

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Simon Wise
On 08/02/16 14:18, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:27:19PM +1100, Simon Wise wrote: raspbian is in between armel and armhf because debian armel is (or was then) compiled without hard float support while debian armhf is compiled for arm7 ... so since PIs are arm6 with FPU neither

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Ozi Traveller
I have 3 raspberry pi's original B, B+, 2 B (quad) I'm using the B+ as a headless server for apt-cacher, I use for live-build's The 2 B I'm going to make a lightweight desktop, as it's better spec'd than my netbook and used less power. On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On M

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:27:19PM +1100, Simon Wise wrote: > raspbian is in between armel and armhf because debian armel is (or > was then) compiled without hard float support while debian armhf is > compiled for arm7 ... so since PIs are arm6 with FPU neither is > suitable Just to be clear, the

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 02:00:26PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > I did all necessary changes in the netman project to rename it to: > "easynetaid" which is unique on google. That is a good name. Simple, unique, and descriptive. I wish all names were as good. -- hendrik _

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Simon Wise
On 08/02/16 07:15, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Gregory Nowak writes: On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 07:26:27PM +, KatolaZ wrote: I recently got one of those new raspberry pi zero. The little thing should have exactly the same hw of the first version of rpi. Hence, I thought I could have migrated it s

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 22:09:44 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20160207220944.gc...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 10:49:48PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > If it is inly a matter of recompiling for armhf with the arm6 > > > flag, shall we try to put togethe

Re: [DNG] pi-vuan

2016-02-07 Thread Ozi Traveller
I can do testing, I have a few raspberry pi's, all still running wheezy. On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 9:58 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 02/07/2016 11:09 PM, KatolaZ > ¡¡ wrote: > > There are a lot of people out there using pis, and > some are already complaining about systemd, and many would love a >

Re: [DNG] pi-vuan

2016-02-07 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 08/02/16 11:58, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 02/07/2016 11:09 PM, KatolaZ ¡¡ wrote: >> There are a lot of people out there using pis, and >> some are already complaining about systemd, and many would love a >> pi-vuan. Any volunteers around? :) > > Yes :) > I've previously said that I'd be inter

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-07 Thread Marlon Nunes
Can we Move On? On 2016-02-07 20:10, aitor_czr wrote: Dear Edward, On 07/02/2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>: On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message <56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-07 Thread aitor_czr
Dear Edward, On 07/02/2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message ><20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>: > >>On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message >><56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>: >> >> >On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux wrote:

[DNG] pi-vuan

2016-02-07 Thread aitor_czr
On 02/07/2016 11:09 PM, KatolaZ ¡¡ wrote: There are a lot of people out there using pis, and some are already complaining about systemd, and many would love a pi-vuan. Any volunteers around?:) Yes :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://ma

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 10:49:48PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > > > If it is inly a matter of recompiling for armhf with the arm6 flag, > > shall we try to put together a devuan for arm6? > > ..yup, and it is worth the while starting from the Raspian > Wheezy flavor a year ago, rather

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 21:07:12 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20160207210712.ga...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 09:01:25PM +0100, info at smallinnovations.nl > wrote: > > > > [cut] > > > > > The original Pi is not fully armhf (ARM6 instruction set instead of > > ARM7) and y

Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread dev1fanboy
I reckon so too, will sort it out then. Thanks for helping me figure out the problem. Cheers, chillfan On Sunday, February 7, 2016 7:57 PM, shraptor wrote: > On 2016-02-07 20:38, dev1fanboy wrote: >> Ah I didn't think to check that, it does work here when changing the >> port. Maybe this behav

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 09:07:12PM +, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > The problem is that Devuan has only armhf so far :) I know the pi zero > Well, it seems that I am wrong here. In the "merged" repository "armel" is present, and there is also a version of the installer for armel, hence it should

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 09:01:25PM +0100, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: > [cut] > > The original Pi is not fully armhf (ARM6 instruction set instead of > ARM7) and your choice is to use armel packages or compile armhf > with the arm6 flag. > The problem is that Devuan has only armhf so

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Gregory Nowak writes: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 07:26:27PM +, KatolaZ wrote: >> I recently got one of those new raspberry pi zero. The little thing >> should have exactly the same hw of the first version of rpi. Hence, I >> thought I could have migrated it swiftly from raspbian (jessie) to >>

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread info at smallinnovations.nl
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 19:26:27 + From: KatolaZ To:dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero Message-ID:<20160207192627.gg23...@katolaz.homeunix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks, I recently got one of those new raspber

Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread shraptor
On 2016-02-07 20:38, dev1fanboy wrote: Ah I didn't think to check that, it does work here when changing the port. Maybe this behaviour is okay, e.g someone would normally use only one at a time, or otherwise change the port. Anyone have any thoughts on that? If it doesn't seem like the right beh

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 07:26:27PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > I recently got one of those new raspberry pi zero. The little thing > should have exactly the same hw of the first version of rpi. Hence, I > thought I could have migrated it swiftly from raspbian (jessie) to > devuan, and I was eager to po

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
KatolaZ writes: > Unfortunately, my enthusiasm left room to frustration. To cut a long > story short, apt-get dist-upgrade fails on unpacking bash_4.3, and in > particular it seems that the pre-installation script is bein killed > with SIGILL (Illegal Instruction). You could put bash on hold, ec

Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread dev1fanboy
Ah I didn't think to check that, it does work here when changing the port. Maybe this behaviour is okay, e.g someone would normally use only one at a time, or otherwise change the port. Anyone have any thoughts on that? If it doesn't seem like the right behaviour I could try to change the defaul

[DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-07 Thread KatolaZ
Hi folks, I recently got one of those new raspberry pi zero. The little thing should have exactly the same hw of the first version of rpi. Hence, I thought I could have migrated it swiftly from raspbian (jessie) to devuan, and I was eager to post my report here. Unfortunately, my enthusiasm left

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 13:10:16 +, Rainer wrote in message <87h9hkmzt3@doppelsaurus.mobileactivedefense.com>: > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > > [...] > > >> > /sys/firmware/ and everything in it is mounted rw on my Gigabyte > >> > legacy board with Devuan installed. > >> > >> That's true on

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 14:47:54 +, Rainer wrote in message <87pow84lwl@doppelsaurus.mobileactivedefense.com>: > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 10:42:04 +, Dave wrote in message > > <56b71f7c.9060...@barradas.free-online.co.uk>: > >> My new Asus laptop is EFI. > >> Running

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-07 Thread Edward Bartolo
> I never meant to insinuate or otherwise say anything about your > programming skill, I'm talking about how easily your netbarx name > can become "netbarf" and you proved my point by reading it as > "netbark" in your first response to me. This lack of strength is something that I have to face. >

Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread shraptor
Turns out both can work on debian jessie, so can't fix this unless there is a patch somewhere. Do you mean both transmission-gtk and transmission-daemon ? I tested some more and if you define another port than default then you can run transmission-gtk and transmission-daemon at the same time.

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:55:27 +, hellekin wrote in message <56b75adf.6090...@dyne.org>: > On 02/07/2016 01:00 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > > If someone suggests a serious name that is better suited than the > > new name, I will consider it. > > > > I'd like to suggest *netbeam*, also call

Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, I suggest you do some software analysis for: a) libraries b) functions exported by these libraries c) functions imported by the executable you are interested in running. This way you should be a able to determine which function/s are linked to from dbus and/or systemd. There are CLI tools fo

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread Ron
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:55:27 + hellekin wrote: > I'd like to suggest *netbeam*, also callable by `beammeup` or `beam [me] > up [Scotty]` I dont want to be beamed "up Scotty" ... Cheers, Ron. -- As long as the answer is right, who cares if the q

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>: > On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message > <56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>: > > > On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux wrote: > > > Every name I came up with was already in multiple u

Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread dev1fanboy
Turns out both can work on debian jessie, so can't fix this unless there is a patch somewhere. Cheers, chillfan On Sunday, February 7, 2016 3:41 PM, dev1fanboy wrote: > Thanks for confirming, after your last reply I tried from source and after > tinking with the flags to match the ones by de

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 2/7/16, Edward Bartolo wrote: Subject: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name To: "dng" Date: Sunday, February 7, 2016, 7:00 AM Hi, I did all necessary changes in the netman project to rename it to: "easynetaid" which is unique on google. If someone suggests a serious name

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 07/02/2016 14:00, Edward Bartolo a écrit : I did all necessary changes in the netman project to rename it to: "easynetaid" which is unique on google. It's a very long name! Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglist

Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread dev1fanboy
Thanks for confirming, after your last reply I tried from source and after tinking with the flags to match the ones by debian, I found the same thing you just mentioned. It's when transmission-daemon is started that transmission-gtk (or qt) won't work and the reason seems to be transmission-daem

Re: [DNG] transmission-daemon package

2016-02-07 Thread shraptor
On 2016-02-07 03:26, shraptor wrote: On 2016-02-06 17:18, dev1fanboy wrote: So I am trying to build transmission-daemon without systemd, was just testing this locally and run into an issue. It can be built without systemd but transmission-gtk will no longer start downloading torrents. I think i

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread hellekin
On 02/07/2016 01:00 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > If someone suggests a serious name that is better suited than the new > name, I will consider it. > I'd like to suggest *netbeam*, also callable by `beammeup` or `beam [me] up [Scotty]` There's no netbeam package nor any `beam` UNIX command. ==

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Arnt Karlsen writes: > On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 10:42:04 +, Dave wrote in message > <56b71f7c.9060...@barradas.free-online.co.uk>: >> My new Asus laptop is EFI. >> Running debian sid, no dual-booting or anything like that. >> and cat /proc/mounts has this:- >> >> efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 10:42:04 +, Dave wrote in message <56b71f7c.9060...@barradas.free-online.co.uk>: > My new Asus laptop is EFI. > Running debian sid, no dual-booting or anything like that. > and cat /proc/mounts has this:- > > efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars efivarfs > rw,nosuid,nodev,n

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Arnt Karlsen writes: [...] >> > /sys/firmware/ and everything in it is mounted rw on my Gigabyte >> > legacy board with Devuan installed. >> >> That's true on my non=efi system, too, but it has >> no /sys/firmware/efi. > > ..can an efi board set up with legacy boot and running e.g. sys-v, > be

[DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, I did all necessary changes in the netman project to rename it to: "easynetaid" which is unique on google. If someone suggests a serious name that is better suited than the new name, I will consider it. I pushed the changes. The GUI's help was debugged to work. Manpage can be invoked by: man

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-07 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Although, some comments were mean, I apologize for my behaviour. This apology has to be taken in the light, that I wish Devuan to continue developing into a distribution, that can be used by all those who respect freedom of choice. As I am one of those who became uneasy with the introduction o

Re: [DNG] Definitely OT!! Re: Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-07 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Svante Signell writes: > On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 21:07 +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> [...] >> >> > And BTW: How many packages have you (meaning all on this list) >> > volunteered to maintain?? >> >> As far as I can tell, the "official standpoint" of 'Devuan' in this >> respect is 'no help wante

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Dave Turner
My new Asus laptop is EFI. Running debian sid, no dual-booting or anything like that. and cat /proc/mounts has this:- efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars efivarfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 DaveT and for the sake of completeness the whole thing:- cat /proc/mounts sysfs /sys sysfs rw,