On 2019-03-12 12:42 p.m., KatolaZ wrote:
Just try:
# apt-get install libelogind0
it should remove libsystemd0, and life should continue as before. If
you have multi-arch enabled with support for i386, you might want to
install also libelogind0:i386.
That worked for me, I was worried with th
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:14:25PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:30:16PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I have just upgraded to beowulf from ascii.
> >
> > Suddently mutt will not accept a backspace to scroll upwards one line
> > while reading a text email.
> >
> > However,
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:30:16PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I have just upgraded to beowulf from ascii.
>
> Suddently mutt will not accept a backspace to scroll upwards one line
> while reading a text email.
In buster/beowulf, to get sane mutt you need "apt install neomutt". And it
doesn't
KatolaZ [12/03/2019 22.54]:
> I am not saying these are not valid complaints, quite the opposite. I
> am just saying that I accepted years ago that the way I use Linux is
> not the same other users use it, and I have to keep this in mind if I
> want to contribute to Devuan.
Well said. Having used
On 3/12/19 11:33 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> The background desktop image has disappeared. Instead, I have a solid
> black background.
>
maybe some lxqt theme got changed between versions and that previous
background isn't available anymore in newer packages(?).
what background image did you use
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:30:16PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I have just upgraded to beowulf from ascii.
>
> Suddently mutt will not accept a backspace to scroll upwards one line
> while reading a text email.
>
> However, on the help page, mut still maintains that backspace means to
> scroll
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:54:02PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:40:02AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > Then, you won't have any
> > "desktop integration" which seems to be a "must" for many users today,
> > but I can assure that life goes on either way.
>
> What *is* that "de
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:33:59PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> After upgrading to beowulf, there are several changes in LXQt:
>
> The background desktop image has disappeared. Instead, I have a solid
> black background.
>
> The clock has disappeared from the activity bar at the bottom.
>
> T
After upgrading to beowulf, there are several changes in LXQt:
The background desktop image has disappeared. Instead, I have a solid
black background.
The clock has disappeared from the activity bar at the bottom.
These may be intended changes that just need reconfiguring, but are
disconcert
I have just upgraded to beowulf from ascii.
Suddently mutt will not accept a backspace to scroll upwards one line
while reading a text email.
However, on the help page, mut still maintains that backspace means to
scroll upwards one line.
-- hendrik
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:40:02AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> Then, you won't have any
> "desktop integration" which seems to be a "must" for many users today,
> but I can assure that life goes on either way.
What *is* that "desktop integration" that those users want?
-- hendrik
>
> We can only fe
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:07:07PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 17:04:23 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
> <20190312160423.c62sssfcgc4b6...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:24:43PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> > >
> > > dear Didier,
> > >
> > > thanks for t
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 17:04:23 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20190312160423.c62sssfcgc4b6...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:24:43PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > dear Didier,
> >
> > thanks for this quick C monitoring tool using the inotify API
> >
> > I think this may be
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 07:02:29PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
[cut]
> > In order to contact your preferred DE's interface to select the printer
> > when you hit CTRL+P, just to make one example out of several dozens?
> >
> Is dbus really necessary for that? When printing from Palemoon, the sa
Le 12/03/2019 à 10:40, KatolaZ a écrit :
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:48:11AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
/var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
read when attemp
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 12 Mar 14:10:10 +
Mark Hindley scripsit:
> Hello all,
>
> We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for Devuan.
> The
> packages have just hit ceres and beowulf and should be in mirrors within an
> hour.
>
> The Big News in this release is that, t
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 07:05:49PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 3/12/19 6:55 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Let me hope those packages just have misdirected dependencies
> > and that any I might use still work.
>
> packages complain because libsystemd0 is removed first during upgrade.
> after
On 3/12/19 6:55 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Let me hope those packages just have misdirected dependencies
> and that any I might use still work.
packages complain because libsystemd0 is removed first during upgrade.
after libelogind0 is installed, dependencies are recovered, so
everything's fine.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:55:47PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:42:49PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:32:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> > >
> > > Do I just have to do aptitude install elogind?
> > >
> >
> > Just try:
> >
>
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:42:49PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:32:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Do I just have to do aptitude install elogind?
> >
>
> Just try:
>
> # apt-get install libelogind0
>
> it should remove libsystemd0, and life should c
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:32:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
[cut]
>
> Do I just have to do aptitude install elogind?
>
Just try:
# apt-get install libelogind0
it should remove libsystemd0, and life should continue as before. If
you have multi-arch enabled with support for i386, you might
On 3/12/19 6:32 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> And, by the way I do have a libsystemd0.
"breaking" is about libsystemd0.
# apt install elogind
will ask for libsystemd0 removal, go ahead :)
On 3/12/19 6:27 PM, fsmithred via Dng wrote:> I can't really test pkexec
- synaptic and gparted open without ask
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:32:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 02:10:10PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for Devuan.
> > The
> > packages have just hit ceres and beowulf and should be in mi
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 02:10:10PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for Devuan.
> The
> packages have just hit ceres and beowulf and should be in mirrors within an
> hour.
>
> The Big News in this release is that, thanks
On 2019-03-12 11:04, KatolaZ wrote:
Then I closed it, created a /etc/machine-id with:
# head -c 4 /dev/random | md5sum | cut -d " " -f 1 > /etc/machine-id
and restarted it. It worked. Then I changed the machine-id and
restarted it several time, and it worked. Then I put /etc/machine-id
equal
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:10:10 +
Mark Hindley wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for
> Devuan. The packages have just hit ceres and beowulf and should be in
> mirrors within an hour.
>
I'm away from home, so I have limited systems for tes
dear Katolaz,
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, KatolaZ wrote:
> We shall probably dig a deeper into this...
indeed what is happening on my machine is hard to reproduce. What also
complicates things is that I do aggressive isolation of different
browser directories using firejail and my tool tinfoil
(https:/
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:24:43PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
>
> dear Didier,
>
> thanks for this quick C monitoring tool using the inotify API
>
> I think this may be useful also for /etc/machine-id - which may be a
> different ID from dbus I believe?
>
> meanwhile an update on my adventures using
On 3/12/19 4:10 PM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> This allows libelogind0 to replace libsystemd0 completely
> without requiring binary recompilation.
really felt good to see libsystemd0 go... ;)
will report back if i spot any issues.
thanks,
d.
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dear Didier,
thanks for this quick C monitoring tool using the inotify API
I think this may be useful also for /etc/machine-id - which may be a
different ID from dbus I believe?
meanwhile an update on my adventures using chromium on Beowulf: it
basically stopped working since I overwrote my mac
Hi,
On 12/3/19 13:45, Antony Stone wrote:
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 at 13:41:44, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi Anthony,
On 12/3/19 13:35, Antony Stone wrote:
If that's a serious comment, what is evil/wrong with (lib)dbus?
One of the premises of the devuan project was (i thought): no more
wraps, please
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 02:10:10PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for Devuan.
> The
> packages have just hit ceres and beowulf and should be in mirrors within an
> hour.
>
> The Big News in this release is that, thanks
Hello all,
We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for Devuan. The
packages have just hit ceres and beowulf and should be in mirrors within an
hour.
The Big News in this release is that, thanks to the persistence of CenturionDan
and the excellent response of Sven upstream,
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 01:41:44PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
>
> On 12/3/19 13:35, Antony Stone wrote:
> > If that's a serious comment, what is evil/wrong with (lib)dbus?
>
> One of the premises of the devuan project was (i thought): no more wraps,
> please.
>
I would agree wholehea
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 at 13:41:44, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
>
> On 12/3/19 13:35, Antony Stone wrote:
> > If that's a serious comment, what is evil/wrong with (lib)dbus?
>
> One of the premises of the devuan project was (i thought): no more
> wraps, please.
Sorry, I don't understand wh
Hi Anthony,
On 12/3/19 13:35, Antony Stone wrote:
If that's a serious comment, what is evil/wrong with (lib)dbus?
One of the premises of the devuan project was (i thought): no more
wraps, please.
Time to eat :)
Aitor.
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On Tuesday 12 March 2019 at 13:07:08, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12/3/19 9:25, KatolaZ wrote:
> > Again, this is pretty pointless: just look for reverse-deps on libdbus
> > and you'll find the answers you are looking for.
> >
> > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id is read by anyting that opens a dbus c
Hi,
On 12/3/19 9:25, KatolaZ wrote:
Again, this is pretty pointless: just look for reverse-deps on libdbus
and you'll find the answers you are looking for.
/var/lib/dbus/machine-id is read by anyting that opens a dbus channel
and/or sends/receives a message through dbus. It is not read by the
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:59:04AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Didier Kryn - 12.03.19, 09:48:
> > Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
> > > guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
> > > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
> > > rea
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:48:11AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
> > guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
> > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
> > read when attempting to send a message via dbus.
>
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 12:12:32PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > $ w
> > 01:55:37 up 4 min, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.19, 0.09
> > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
> > user :0.0 :0.0 01:51 ?xdm? 47.32s 0.24s
> > x-session-manager
Didier Kryn - 12.03.19, 09:48:
> Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
> > guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
> > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
> > read when attempting to send a message via dbus.
>
> It's most certainly as
Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
/var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
read when attempting to send a message via dbus.
It's most certainly as simple as that.
The question is why the h
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 08:17:59AM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Mon, 11 Mar 19:16:13 +0100
> Didier Kryn scripsit:
> > First list of applications reading machine-id.
> >
> > /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> > /usr/bin/dbus-launch
> > /usr/local/waterfox/wa
Anno domini 2019 Mon, 11 Mar 19:16:13 +0100
Didier Kryn scripsit:
> First list of applications reading machine-id.
>
> /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> /usr/bin/dbus-launch
> /usr/local/waterfox/waterfox
>
> None of Palemoon, Firefox-ESR or Surf reads machine-id on my ASCI
Anno domini 2019 Mon, 11 Mar 19:16:13 +0100
Didier Kryn scripsit:
> First list of applications reading machine-id.
>
> /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> /usr/bin/dbus-launch
> /usr/local/waterfox/waterfox
You can add "chromium".
>
> None of Palemoon, Firefox-ESR or Surf r
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