Re: [DNG] Systemd depends on random numbers in order to work properly

2019-07-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 17:35:19 +0200, Martin wrote in message <1898883.rvtoQVDO1o@merkaba>: > Hi! > > Just another reason I am happy to use sysvinit on my systems. > > unblock: systemd/241-4 > https://bugs.debian.org/929215 > > Booting system should not depend on random numbers to be available

Re: [DNG] Server updated to Devuan Beowulf

2019-07-08 Thread golinux
On 2019-07-08 16:23, Martin Steigerwald wrote: goli...@devuan.org - 08.07.19, 23:11: On 2019-07-08 16:00, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > After release of Debian 10 aka Buster I just upgraded my new 64-Bit > Devuan server from Ascii to Beowulf. The server provides mail, web > and some other

Re: [DNG] Server updated to Devuan Beowulf

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
goli...@devuan.org - 08.07.19, 23:11: > On 2019-07-08 16:00, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > After release of Debian 10 aka Buster I just upgraded my new 64-Bit > > Devuan server from Ascii to Beowulf. The server provides mail, web > > and some other services. > > > > What can I say? > > > > It

Re: [DNG] Server updated to Devuan Beowulf

2019-07-08 Thread golinux
On 2019-07-08 16:00, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hi. After release of Debian 10 aka Buster I just upgraded my new 64-Bit Devuan server from Ascii to Beowulf. The server provides mail, web and some other services. What can I say? It just worked. Only thing was that for Quassel IRC I had to use

[DNG] Server updated to Devuan Beowulf

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi. After release of Debian 10 aka Buster I just upgraded my new 64-Bit Devuan server from Ascii to Beowulf. The server provides mail, web and some other services. What can I say? It just worked. Only thing was that for Quassel IRC I had to use "aa-disable quassel- core" to disable AppArmor.

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 11:03:36 +0200 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > viverna - 06.07.19, 15:58: > > il devuanizzato Steve Litt il > > 06-07-19 > 07:24:37 ha scritto: > > >> Instead it's possible > > >> inject in all daemon's install a piece of posix shell? > > >> Workaround script on event

Re: [DNG] Ascii netinstall problems

2019-07-08 Thread golinux
On 2019-07-08 17:24, aitor_czr wrote: Hi m_maass, On 8/7/19 17:41, m_maass wrote: Dear Friends, i want to install ascii with packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz As far as i know, the "packages.devuan.org" repository is

[DNG] Systemd sd_notify(): was Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 10:54:58 +0200 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Steve Litt - 07.07.19, 01:26: > > I can't think of anything I or anyone could do, regarding runit > > runscripts, that would adversely affect sysvinit. As far as systemd, > > runit and s6 are never going to use the systemd

Re: [DNG] Ascii netinstall problems

2019-07-08 Thread aitor_czr
Hi m_maass, On 8/7/19 17:41, m_maass wrote: Dear Friends, i want to install ascii with packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz As far as i know, the "packages.devuan.org" repository is deprecated. Did you try with "deb.devuan.org"?

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato Hendrik Boom il 08-07-19 18:59:00 ha scritto: Epoch is an init system very interesting. Syntax config file it's declarative like systemd. Don't exist dependency between objects but only prority (it may be strange in the beginning). I like scriptable init system (for example

Re: [DNG] ..so Debian is Busting postgresql, evolution-ews inboxes and history itself?, was: Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 11:00:27 +0200, Martin wrote in message <9089233.Yakf2O1BWr@merkaba>: > Arnt Karlsen - 07.07.19, 16:29: > > ..another motive in town?: > > 5.3.7. evolution-ews has been dropped, AND EMAIL INBOXES USING > > EXCHANGE, OFFICE365 OR OUTLOOK SERVER WILL BE REMOVED: > >

[DNG] Ascii netinstall problems

2019-07-08 Thread m_maass
Dear Friends, i want to install ascii with packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz The installation stop with this Error: anna-install: Queueing udeb ascii-support for later installation main-menu[2681]:DEBUG:

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 06:33:02PM +0200, viverna wrote: > il devuanizzato Martin Steigerwald il 08-07-19 11:03:36 > ha scritto: > > viverna - 06.07.19, 15:58: > > > Put my code here. > > > > > > Work for epoch init system but it is adaptable to any other such as > > > runit, s6 and so on... >

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato Martin Steigerwald il 08-07-19 11:03:36 ha scritto: viverna - 06.07.19, 15:58: Put my code here. Work for epoch init system but it is adaptable to any other such as runit, s6 and so on... Thanks a lot for your code contribution I was not even aware of epoch init system.

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hendrik Boom - 08.07.19, 16:56: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:54:58AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Steve Litt - 07.07.19, 01:26: > > > On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:49:52 +0200 > > > > > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > > So I believe it is good to let go of any drama and fear and just > > > >

[DNG] Systemd depends on random numbers in order to work properly

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Just another reason I am happy to use sysvinit on my systems. unblock: systemd/241-4 https://bugs.debian.org/929215 Booting system should not depend on random numbers to be available in a large enough quantity. Granted there is a processor bug involved… but why rely on the random number

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:54:58AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Steve Litt - 07.07.19, 01:26: > > On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:49:52 +0200 > > > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > > So I believe it is good to let go of any drama and fear and just get > > > on with actually doing something to

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
viverna - 06.07.19, 15:58: > il devuanizzato Steve Litt il 06-07-19 07:24:37 ha scritto: > >> Instead it's possible > >> inject in all daemon's install a piece of posix shell? > >> Workaround script on event "DPkg::Post-Invoke" as I said in the > >> previous email? > > > >You know much more than

Re: [DNG] ..so Debian is Busting postgresql, evolution-ews inboxes and history itself?, was: Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Arnt Karlsen - 07.07.19, 16:29: > ..another motive in town?: > 5.3.7. evolution-ews has been dropped, AND EMAIL INBOXES USING > EXCHANGE, OFFICE365 OR OUTLOOK SERVER WILL BE REMOVED: > https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-informat > ion.en.html#evolution-and-exchange >

Re: [DNG] Runit service depend another script not daemon

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Steve Litt - 07.07.19, 01:26: > On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:49:52 +0200 > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Steve Litt - 06.07.19, 07:24: […] > > There is the debian-init-diversity group where Debian and Devuan > > people work together. Back then I helped to bring that forward and > > there is still a

Re: [DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster

2019-07-08 Thread Joel Roth via Dng
If there can be a convergence on this topic, I think it might be useful addition to the Devuan FAQ, relevant as it concerns init freedom. Q: I'm not ready to move to Devuan yet. Can I setup Debian to use sysvinit instead of systemd? A: For Buster (Debian's current stable distribution) the

Re: [DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster

2019-07-08 Thread golinux
On 2019-07-08 01:24, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Joel Roth via Dng - 07.07.19, 23:39: Noting here a solution from the debian-user mailing list. I'm aware there's a team working for init system flexibility on Debian and send my kudos and beer vouchers to them :-)

Re: [DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Joel Roth via Dng - 07.07.19, 23:39: > Noting here a solution from the debian-user mailing list. > > I'm aware there's a team working for init system flexibility > on Debian and send my kudos and beer vouchers to them :-) > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/06/msg00961.html > > >