Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
Hi, On 23/11/19 4:38 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:17:58 +1100, Andrew wrote in message > : > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Jo. >> >> On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: >>> In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX

Re: [DNG] INJ - Init Freedom inJector (was: cannot exist without the help of Debian)

2019-11-22 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato spiralofhope il 22-11-19 20:25:03 ha scritto: On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 18:31:25 +0100 viverna wrote: I propose this: a script called INJ - Init Freedom inJector I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan

Re: [DNG] INJ - Init Freedom inJector (was: cannot exist without the help of Debian)

2019-11-22 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 18:31:25 +0100 viverna wrote: > I propose this: a script called INJ - Init Freedom inJector > > I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init > run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. > > I'm writing a simple script that

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:17:58 +1100, Andrew wrote in message : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Jo. > > On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > > In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linux? > > I think not. > > MX is not exactly against

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
Is there any way to give our support to this proposal? Only Debian-accepted developers (cf. https://www.debian.org/devel/join/), subsequently called "Debian Developer", or "DD", have a right to vote (cf. https://www.debian.org/vote/howto_follow). I would also be eager to help Debian (&

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato Denis Roio il 22-11-19 10:55:46 ha scritto: Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian. If Debian drops the support for any other init system but systemd, I believe we won't be able to keep up with the legwork needed to support all other init systems. I say this because we

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan via Dng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jo. On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linux? I think not. MX is not exactly against systemd, they use it still, but not as the init system. And MX is reliant upon Debian

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > Now please let this success be an account of how important is Init > Freedom for the large amount of Debian users out there. > > Today I write you because there is a reason to be worried that

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 14:29:36 +0100, Irrwahn wrote in message <00acc993-3243-4ccc-aa86-0f5f93aaf...@freenet.de>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote on 22.11.19 13:36: > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message > > <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > [...] > >> And today once

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread John Crisp via Dng
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:36:48 +0100 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message > <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > > > > > And today once again I support the vote proposition nr.4 by Ian > > Jackson > > ..a direct link to Ian's vote

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Irrwahn
Arnt Karlsen wrote on 22.11.19 13:36: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message > <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: [...] >> And today once again I support the vote proposition nr.4 by Ian >> Jackson > > ..a direct link to Ian's vote proposition nr.4 and a direct link

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linux? Best Regards -- Ismael - Original Message - From: "Denis Roio" To: "DNG" Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:55 AM Subject: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

[DNG] Beowulf: DBus service error

2019-11-22 Thread Haines Brown
I get a DBus error every five seconds, probably going back to when I upgraded Ascii to Beoulf. Here is the error in syslog: Nov 22 06:42:04 engels brltty[724]: DBus error: send message: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not provided by any .service file

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
Is there any way to give our support to this proposal? Best Regards -- Ismael - Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" To: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in

Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>: > dear readers, > > I write this email to comment on the current Init System GR vote in > Debian, see https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2019/11/ > > I'll be brief and express my personal

[DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian

2019-11-22 Thread Denis Roio
dear readers, I write this email to comment on the current Init System GR vote in Debian, see https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2019/11/ I'll be brief and express my personal opinion on the matter. Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian. When me and Franco Lanza started this