Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 31 July 2021 at 00:27:16, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 23:14:36 +0200, Antony wrote in meesage: > > > I also caused some confusion when asking for directions to > > "Schenectady" in New York State, USA, some years ago. > > ..aouch. What sort of shenanigans did that

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 30 July 2021 at 22:50:22, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 30 July 2021 at 22:30:34, Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 22:18 +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > On Friday 30 July 2021 at 22:04:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > On Fri, Ju

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 30 July 2021 at 22:30:34, Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 22:18 +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Friday 30 July 2021 at 22:04:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 07:13:43PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > > > > We also

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 30 July 2021 at 22:04:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 07:13:43PM +0100, Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > > > This is sort of what I was getting at, English is a language that > > changes over time, unfortunately not all English speaking nations keep > > up, for

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 28 July 2021 at 23:48:37, Steve Litt wrote: > - Ate it: Fell down, presumably while trying something challenging on a > skateboard, roller skates, bicycle, surf board, or while body surfing. > > - Ate concrete: Subset of ate it: Fell off a bicycle, roller skates or > skateboard,

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 28 July 2021 at 23:29:55, Steve Litt wrote: > Every Linux distro's install media should have all drivers available during > installation. After installation, if the user wishes to remove all non-free > from his computer, he can do so. > Or, the installation process can come with an

Re: [DNG] [OT] British vs American language

2021-07-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 28 July 2021 at 13:04:10, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 12:06:46PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote in the > signature: > > > > A few words to be cautious of between American and English: > > - momentarily > > - suspenders > >

Re: [DNG] Missing syslog

2021-07-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 27 July 2021 at 18:27:47, Hendrik Boom wrote: > And, while I'm asking anyway, why no /var/log/mail* since 2013 either? /var/log/mail* would be created by sendmail (and perhaps others), but the default for Debian (and therefore Devuan) is Exim, which logs to /var/log/exim4/* So, I'm

Re: [DNG] Advice sought re: ejabberd

2021-07-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 19 July 2021 at 16:15:22, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 11:44 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 12:42:15PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > # less /var/log/ejabberd/error.log > > > 2021-07-18 09:43:36.985 [error] > > >

Re: [DNG] Advice sought re: ejabberd

2021-07-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 18 July 2021 at 16:54:25, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > # service ejabberd start > [] Starting ejabberd...:root@memyself:/home/opensrf-3.2.1# service > ejabberd status > [] Getting ejabberd status...:Failed RPC connection to the node > ejabberd@localhost: nodedown > > Commands to

Re: [DNG] Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 17 July 2021 at 17:20:40, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > trying to install postgres 13 on beowulf > deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/ buster-pgdg main > # apt update > Err:7 http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt beowulf-pgdg Release > Somehow what I

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-07-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 01 July 2021 at 11:00:48, terryc wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 09:46:02 +0100 (BST) Jim Jackson wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jun 2021, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 23:12:28 +0100 (BST), Jim wrote: > > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2021, tempforever wrote: > > > > > Jim Jackson wrote: > >

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 19 June 2021 at 16:31:23, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Please - - - anyone for a short writeup on how to > install/start/whatever else to ntp without using systemd? Personally I use "aptitude install ntp". Antony. -- Some things the German language doesn't easily distinguish

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:37:30, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > Is deleting the paniclog the proper way to stop receiving these e-mails? > > No, don't delete it, empty it, this should be the standard practice when > manually manipulating daemon log files. Hm, why do you say that? Surely you want

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:25:18, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > I received this e-mail yesterday, and again today: > > - > exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on quixote.home has non-zero size, > mail system might be broken. The last 10 lines are quoted

Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

2021-05-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 25 May 2021 at 05:25:41, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 09:32:49PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > As for getting a standard GNU / Linux system onto eBook reader hardware, > > I would say: > > > > a) very unlikely, given the sto

Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

2021-05-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 24 May 2021 at 21:25:16, g4sra via Dng wrote: > I am shocked at the amount of 'user profiling' the OEM firmware performs > which is then sent to Chinese servers. Sorry, but what are you talking about? > I have temporarily knobbled the network until I find a more permanent > solution.

Re: [DNG] routing tables.

2021-05-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 17 May 2021 at 20:35:41, Hendrik Boom wrote: > The first step is to use a browser to connect to http://192.168.1.1 The second step (in IP terms) is to connect *from* an address that 192.168.1.1 can reply to. > Now that means I have to configure my routing tables so that packets to >

Re: [DNG] A suggestion for going forward from the RMS/FSF debate

2021-04-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 17 April 2021 at 11:05:40, Didier Kryn wrote: > the [British] queen has better social skills than RMS. Wow - what a compliment :) Antony. -- Was ist braun, liegt ins Gras, und raucht? Ein Kaminchen... Please reply to the list;

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.7.1

2021-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 14 April 2021 at 22:23:00, tito via Dng wrote: > V.1.7.1 :) Antony. -- Atheism is a non-prophet-making organisation. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.7

2021-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 14 April 2021 at 22:03:45, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > v 1.7 1. Why ask "yes or no" *before* checking for root (which is needed)? I would check for root first, and *then* ask "do you want to proceed?", otherwise you're asking "do you want to do this?" and then saying "you

Re: [DNG] Screen flickering

2021-04-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 08 April 2021 at 17:26:42, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > >> I would boot from an installation USB / CD (preferably the one you set > >> the > >> machine up from) and go into Rescue Mode, and see whether the hardware > >> still > >> continues behaving the same way. > > > > I just

Re: [DNG] Screen flickering

2021-04-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 08 April 2021 at 16:37:54, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > Recently the screen of a Dell Latitude 7400 laptop I have (which is > running Devuan) started flickering. > What else is there to try? I would boot from an installation USB / CD (preferably the one you set the machine up

Re: [DNG] Remote two-way sound?

2021-03-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 28 March 2021 at 12:08:09, al3xu5 wrote: > Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:36:46 +0100 - Antony Stone wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of a remote access mechanism which supports two-way > > sound? > > Not sure it's something similar that you are looking for, but tak

Re: [DNG] Remote two-way sound?

2021-03-27 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 27 March 2021 at 17:29:56, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:36:46 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of a remote access mechanism which supports two-way > > sound? > > Krdc (Kde remote desltop client) has a setting: > >

[DNG] Remote two-way sound?

2021-03-27 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I don't know if I'm just overlooking something obvious, but I can't think of the answer... Does anyone know of a remote access mechanism which supports two-way sound? I've deliberately worded that slightly vaguely, because I'd be happy with a remote desktop sharing system such as RDC /

Re: [DNG] Dng Subscription results

2021-03-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 26 March 2021 at 14:59:26, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > I am trying to subscribe a different account so I can unsubscribe this > one. However, when submitting the new address to the web form [1], I > get the following error and apparently no action towards subscription: > > Dng

Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 26 March 2021 at 13:07:08, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi All, > > Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS: > https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002 > > Does Devuan have resolutions to sign open letters? > I'd propose to sign this one instead: >

Re: [DNG] kvm -- virsh failed shutdown -- reason was missing acpid on vm [resolved]

2021-03-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 25 March 2021 at 18:53:20, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > On 26/3/21 12:25 am, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > Indeed - this is a known requirement for VMs (certainly under KVM, I > > don't know about Xen etc, but I would assume it also a

Re: [DNG] kvm -- virsh failed shutdown -- reason was missing acpid on vm [resolved]

2021-03-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 25 March 2021 at 14:16:52, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > "virsh shutdown vmname" > > The immediate response was that it would shutdown the vm > > However, doing "virsh list --all" still showed the vm as "Running" no > matter how long I waited. > > It turns

Re: [DNG] Upgrade from buster to beowulf, runlevels are goofed

2021-03-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 21 March 2021 at 10:57:46, Erich Minderlein via Dng wrote: > In the times of SuSE 7.0 to 7.3 I used runlevels to control a server with > attached thin clients. The users on the system got a wall message and had > to save their work. After a few minutes the runlevel was reduced from 5 to

Re: [DNG] Shutting down on weird keys combination.

2021-03-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 12 March 2021 at 19:51:41, А. Сорокин via Dng wrote: > Hello. > > I have a strange behavior on my system (DeVuan's Sid (Ceres?) > up-to-date system): on quick pressing (may be it seems to system as keys > are pressed at once), of Shift-b-v (no matter where: CLI or GUI) system > shuts

Re: [DNG] Bug in mailman and question

2021-03-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 10 March 2021 at 10:20:47, vezzoniser...@alice.it wrote: > Hi everyone > This is just to report that I tried to subscribe to the dng list You appear to have succeeded :) > but i got redirected to a bug notification page. Please either tell us what the notification said, or show us

Re: [DNG] What does this remind you of?

2021-03-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 07 March 2021 at 17:59:22, Steve Litt wrote: > See this web page: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pattern > > I'd say at least half of the listed anti-patterns are used by systemd. Very nice. Antony. -- I bought a book about anti-gravity. The reviews say you can't put it

Re: [DNG] Beowulf embedded builds?

2021-03-06 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 06 March 2021 at 15:20:28, g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:40 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > However, there is no http://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/embedded/ so > > I'm wondering whether th

[DNG] Beowulf embedded builds?

2021-03-06 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I use a few Raspberry Pi-type devices (Raspberry, Banana, Orange), and it's good to see that http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/embedded/ provides installers for a good range of such boards. However, there is no http://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/embedded/ so I'm wondering whether

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 05 March 2021 at 17:46:21, g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Friday, March 5, 2021 10:32 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > In MS Teams, go to your profile (something up in the top right), then > > Settings and Devices, and ther

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 05 March 2021 at 17:38:40, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2021-03-05 04:32, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Friday 05 March 2021 at 11:23:24, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > In MS Teams, go to your profile (something up in the top right), then > > Settings and De

Re: [DNG] Jitsi advice please

2021-03-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 05 March 2021 at 11:23:24, g4sra via Dng wrote: > My biggest beef with Microsoft Teams, Zoom, and now Jitsi-meetthey all > omitted an essential service. What I want is (looking at you Rick :P) a > test sever which simply echo's back the incoming video\audio to the > client. In MS

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 03 March 2021 at 14:03:46, tito via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 10:16:13 +0100 John Hughes wrote: > > > > Just avoid the "ethX" names (because of race conditions and because > > they're stupid). Use something descriptive. > > they are less stupid than enp0s0p1 or the like and

Re: [DNG] My Qemu LAN-peer documentation is now in its first draft

2021-03-03 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 03 March 2021 at 10:40:20, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 08:04:19 +0100 > > tito via Dng wrote: > > you can set the device names by MAC addresses at boot > > and in the past it worked as udev/eudev net-persisent-name.rules > > (but seems to be broken,

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Distribution upgrade issue

2021-02-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 22 February 2021 at 22:26:17, Hector Gonzalez Jaime via Dng wrote: > I've seen your original problem frequently, mysql and mariadb both are > turned off during upgrades, and then apt-get goes on to install other > packages, which might require a database to be running and have no >

Re: [DNG] How to turn off the firewall

2021-02-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 22 February 2021 at 17:26:21, Federico Fanton via Dng wrote: > On 22/02/21 17:19, Antony Stone wrote: > >> for table in "${!chains[@]}"; do > >> > >> echo "${chains[$table]}" | tr : $"\n" | while IFS= read -r; do > &

Re: [DNG] How to turn off the firewall

2021-02-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 22 February 2021 at 16:39:12, Federico Fanton via Dng wrote: > On 22/02/21 16:29, Steve Litt wrote: > > On a Devuan machine, how do I turn off the firewall entirely, so all > > ports are accessible? I need to do this for experimentation, not as a > > permanent thing. > > To completely

Re: [DNG] Distribution upgrade issue

2021-02-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 21 February 2021 at 23:33:39, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > I found an issue with a distribution upgrade from ascii to beowulf. Please give at least an outline of how you performed that upgrade? > During the upgrade mysql is stopped. later in the process the upgrade to > roundcube

Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt

2021-02-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 February 2021 at 21:02:34, Rick Moen wrote: > I think someone should write an online essay called something like 'How > to Ask Questions the Smart Way', to help such folks. https://xkcd.com/927/ Antony :) -- Under UK law, no VAT is charged on biscuits and cakes - they are "zero

Re: [DNG] (no subject)

2021-01-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 21 January 2021 at 12:22:26, Budi via Dng wrote: > How could sha failed > it dloaded from official Devuan site Please tell us exactly how you downloaded it. > devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso: FAILED > sha256sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match > sha256sum:

Re: [DNG] DeVuan deleted partitons table.

2021-01-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:48:31, А. Сорокин via Dng wrote: > I had a very stange behaviour of DeVuan ssytem. -- I had MBR 3 TB HDD > that worked well on old system with DDR RAM, LiLo booted the system. LiLo!? Wow. > Then i moved the HDD to a bit newer system, Still a pure Bios

Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update

2021-01-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: > Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I don't > do Windows. I can't imagine there being anything Devuan-specific for this sort of thing (ie: it'll either be standard Debian, or generic Linux), but to get a

Re: [DNG] package missing System V init script

2021-01-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 02 January 2021 at 15:00:04, Adrian Zaugg wrote: > Dear List > > Yesterday I installed syncthing-relaysrv, which is missing the init > script for System V based systems. What is the best practice to report > such problem? Open a bug in Devuan, Debian or upstreams? I would start by

Re: [DNG] Finding installed packages, but from a backup

2020-12-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 31 December 2020 at 12:18:24, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > Στις 31/12/20 12:50 μ.μ., ο/η Antony Stone έγραψε: > > I have_all_ files from the machine I want to investigate, and I'm hoping > > that there's something in /var/cache/apt or /var/lib/dpkg which would >

[DNG] Finding installed packages, but from a backup

2020-12-31 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I know I can get a list of the packages installed on a currently-running system using commands such as: dpkg-query -l apt list --installed aptitude search ~i However, if there any way I can do the same thing, but when I simply have a copy (backup) of the machine,

Re: [DNG] Vdev [ was Re: if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names]

2020-12-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 26 December 2020 at 19:04:51, Didier Kryn wrote: > I guess it's historical: historically there was only character devices and > block devices, and no provision for other categories, and maybe no provision > in the bitfields which qualify the associated special files. Sounds entirely

Re: [DNG] Historical note on double negation.

2020-12-24 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 24 December 2020 at 15:49:22, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:30:58AM +0100, aitor wrote: > > On 24/12/20 10:23, aitor wrote: > > > neither the mouse nor the keyboard didn't respond > > > > Mmm..., this is a double denial. Neither the mouse nor the keyboard could > >

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 23 December 2020 at 23:41:58, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/12/2020 à 22:03, Antony Stone a écrit : > > If the kernel decides A=eth1, B=eth2, C=eth0 then there's no way for udev > > rules to rename them, because "File exists" (which should of course sa

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 23 December 2020 at 21:56:09, aitor wrote: > I can't understand the problem in the "Ethernet names revisited" thread, The problem is when the kernel has decided to give your interfaces the names you want them to have, but in the wrong order. > because adding a new rule at the end

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 18 December 2020 at 00:17:48, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > a few days ago I was able to complete may new router > with 12 nics and 1 wifi. I'm intrigued. What do you need 12 NICs for these days? (I say "these days" because (a) so many things are wireless now and don't use cables, and

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 17 December 2020 at 13:03:57, rattenkopf via Dng wrote: > hi Antony > > Yesterday I had the same problem - mainboard network interface gets eth1 > as name and the both interfaces from the pci-card are eth0 and eth2 and > fiddling with udef-rule didn't get the wanted result. Indeed -

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 21:42:50, Simon Hobson wrote: > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I had to solve it by assigning new names to the interfaces (thus not eth0 > > or eth1) and modifying all the config files mentioning those interface > > names (I found them with grep) to use the new names

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 21:13:10, d...@d404.nl wrote: > It looks like systemd again is responsible for this mess. That is unexpected for me, since I am starting from a clean installation of Devuan Beowulf - no upgrade, no crossover from Debian - just a totally new install of Devuan

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 14:25:37, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:45:56 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > > > > From Ascii onwards I get the errors: > > > > udevd[441]: Error changing net interface name eth2 to eth0: File > > exists udevd[441]: co

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 13:02:45, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Am 13. Dezember 2020 12:01:39 MEZ schrieb Antony Stone : > > Well, here's the output from "dmesg | grep eth". It shows the r8169 > > interfaces being given names eth0, eth1 (the ones I

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 11:23:21, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Am 13. Dezember 2020 10:45:56 MEZ schrieb Antony Stone: > > From Ascii onwards I get the errors: > > > > udevd[441]: Error changing net interface name eth2 to eth0: File exists > > udevd[441]: co

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 09:25:24, terryc wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:15:53 +0100 > > Antony Stone wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I've just installed a couple of Beowulf systems, each of which has > > three ethernet interfaces; one on the motherboard, and tw

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 01:09:18, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Well, the kernel modules makes the first naming, and assigns them as > eth0, eth1, eth2. That happens before udev starts. > > The kernel refuses any attempt to name an interface to, say, eth0 if > that name is taken. > >

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 00:01:06, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > On 12/12 23:22, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > 1. Why is this so totally different from what I could previously do using > > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules under jessie and earlier > >

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited - a workaround (but the basic question still remains)

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 00:01:11, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 23:11:52 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > > I would still *really like* to know: > > > > 1. how can I get 70-persistent-net.rules to carry on working as it > > used to, under B

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 12 December 2020 at 23:11:25, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > It really isn't that hard: > > when the kernel starts it will give its default names to the > interfaces as ethN numbering them in order it initializes them. In > your case it will use the names eth0, eth1 and eth2 that

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited - a workaround (but the basic question still remains)

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 12 December 2020 at 14:15:53, Antony Stone wrote: > Historically, I've been used to udev and /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent- > net.rules doing this, where I can specify the name I want for each > interface according to its MAC address. > 1. how can I get 70-persiste

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 12 December 2020 at 16:28:04, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 12/12/2020 à 14:15, Antony Stone a écrit : > > > > 1. how can I get 70-persistent-net.rules to carry on working under > > Beowulf? > > > > 2. what's the "correct" way to get my int

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 12 December 2020 at 16:06:29, tito via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 14:15:53 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > > Historically, I've been used to udev > > and /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent- net.rules doing this, where I > > can specify the name I want for eac

Re: [DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 12 December 2020 at 15:27:08, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 12-12-2020 14:15, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > According to https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames the old 70- > > persistent-net.rules system _should_ still work in Buster / Beowulf, but > >

[DNG] Ethernet names revisited

2020-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I've just installed a couple of Beowulf systems, each of which has three ethernet interfaces; one on the motherboard, and two on a PCI card. I'm trying to work out how to give those interfaces the names I want; the motherboard as eth0, and the PCI card as eth1 / eth2. Historically, I've

Re: [DNG] devuan and debootstrap

2020-12-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 05 December 2020 at 12:52:27, Haines Brown wrote: > I wanted to do a cross install of Beowulf 3.1 on a spare disk to test > it. Howver, deboostrap does not seem to be in the devuan > repository. Huh? # aptitude show debootstrap Package: debootstrap Version:

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu without systemd?

2020-12-03 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 03 December 2020 at 12:11:11, aitor wrote: > Hi again, > > On 12/3/20 12:00 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > >> I don't know, but sysvinit may have been removed entirely from ubuntu > >> since the early days of upstart, due to its backward compatibi

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu without systemd?

2020-12-03 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 03 December 2020 at 11:55:22, aitor wrote: > Hi Antony, > > On 12/3/20 10:32 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > > I ask because I've looked at both Ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04 systems, and I > > simply don't see the expected sysvinit packages available - I wonder if > &

[DNG] Ubuntu without systemd?

2020-12-03 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. Before I started using Devuan as my standard distribution, I was converting Debian systems from systemd to sysvinit (Jessie and Stretch), and for servers without a graphical desktop environment, this worked perfectly well. Does anyone know whether the same thing can be done starting from

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 01 December 2020 at 15:16:57, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > This brings us to the other thing worthy of note. Try sometime to install > Devuan (not Debian, Devuan) without systemd and you'll be in for a rude > shock. It's installed by default, and it's a massive pain to eradicate it.

Re: [DNG] acx wireless support

2020-11-27 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 27 November 2020 at 12:54:17, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > I have an ACX 111 wireless PCMCIA card which I want to use on Beowulf. > > I think Debian supports it with acx-mac80211 and the acx100 is retired. > I also need firmware, some package it as acx111-firmware some

Re: [DNG] Beowulf: 32bit or 64 bit?

2020-11-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 26 November 2020 at 17:35:18, Fred wrote: > I installed arch-test which says i386. I am sure an AMD cpu will run > x86 instructions but I don't see how a x86/i386 cpu will run the > instructions that AMD presumably added. i386 is a 32-bit standard. Any 64-bit CPU (from AMD or

Re: [DNG] problematic mouse driver?

2020-11-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 22 November 2020 at 17:01:31, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > I wonder if your workflow is similar with wired and wireless mice. > Maybe you do something different, like closing the window in the > meantime? > > This is important, because selecting text with mouse does NOT actually > copy

Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 16 November 2020 at 21:17:21, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Am 16. November 2020 20:30:36 MEZ schrieb Antony Stone: > > > f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx prgrmmng > > Is this an offer? (43yo script kiddie is looking for job in a techically > challenging

Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 16 November 2020 at 20:02:24, Fred wrote: > Hi, > The upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan Beowulf went ok. Excellent news. I too, did not know it was safe to skip releases in this way; I've always upgraded my Debian machines from one release to the next in sequence, without trying

Re: [DNG] Rspamd 2.5 for Devuan 3 Beowulf

2020-11-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 07 November 2020 at 13:03:38, Mike Tubby wrote: > Hi Antony, > > That's probably what I want but it's very opaque on how to get it ... no > download link, no repository name? The repository name is beowulf-backports > What do I need to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to get it? You

Re: [DNG] Rspamd 2.5 for Devuan 3 Beowulf

2020-11-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 07 November 2020 at 12:31:30, Mike Tubby wrote: > All, > > Rspamd for Devuan 3 Beowulf is at version 1.8.1 where as Ubuntu 18.04 > Bionic is on 2.5. > > However, it appears that you can't install Ubuntu or Debian's version of > Rspamd packages because they depend on hyperscan4 and

Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 31 October 2020 at 23:07:42, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > There is a reason the Devuan team takes the time to write Release Notes. > I only wish that more users would take the time to read them: An admirable comment - I only ask - how are such notes brought to people's attention when

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 20:31:22, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 linux-libc-dev > > amd64 4.19.118-2 404 Not Found [I

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 linux-libc-dev amd64 > 4.19.118-2 404 Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80] > Unable to correct missing packages. > E: Failed to fetch >

Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 15:55:22, radisso...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi everyone, > i am new on this list and in search for a place to > ask for a wired problem with a devuan installation. > > Is this the place for that kind of questions ? Yes. Did you really mean a wired problem, or is it a

Re: [DNG] the email universe

2020-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 12:12:40, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Found the list of MUA useful. > > The last time I went looking though - - - it seemed to me anyway that > much more than just a MUA is needed for a complete system. Please define "complete system". I can't tell

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 22 September 2020 at 17:21:25, Steve Litt wrote: > I would never use Bash in a shellscript. Therefore, do you think my > shebang should just go straight to #!/bin/dash instead of #!/bin/sh ? > That would certainly take the ambiguity out of it. Yes. If you're writing portable scripts

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 21 September 2020 at 18:39:43, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 01:46:32PM +0100, Peter Duffy wrote: > > One thing about this which strikes me as a bit ironic is debian's use of > > the dash shell, made to be POSIX-compliant, and so causing endless > > problems for scripts

Re: [DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 16 September 2020 at 20:26:20, tom wrote: > > On 2020-09-15 14:02, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > > > 10 Best Debian-Based Linux Distributions > > > > > > https://www.tecmint.com/debian-based-linux-distributions/ > > Ubuntu is second on their best list? More like second worst

Re: [DNG] Iceweasel-uxp from Hyperbola GNU/Linux

2020-09-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 10 September 2020 at 13:57:25, Haines Brown wrote: > It seems iceweasal-uxp-dev depends on iceweasel-uxp, which is not > available in the Beowulf package repository: > > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you

Re: [DNG] Iceweasel-uxp from Hyperbola GNU/Linux

2020-09-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 10 September 2020 at 12:39:17, Haines Brown wrote: > This is wonderful news to a user of Palemoon/basilisk. However > installing it failed because of my ignorance: > > $ sudo apt-get install ./iceweasel-uxp-dev > Reading package lists... Done > E: Unsupported file ./iceweasel-uxp-dev

[DNG] iSCSI and configfs

2020-09-09 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I recently installed (not upgraded) a Devuan Beowulf system which I intend to use as an iSCSI target server. I installed the targetcli-fb package for this. I was rather surprised to find that there was no startup script included in the package to start iSCSI at boot time. However, I

Re: [DNG] Lost and found: was Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 07 September 2020 at 02:39:10, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 00:43:11 -0500 > > > On 2020-09-04 22:25, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Delete the contents all you want, but keep the lost and found > > > directory. > Whoops. I never realized the directory was necessary, and have

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 05 September 2020 at 19:28:24, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 08:50:32PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > If you delete lost+found by accident, you can recreate it with > > mklost+found(8). > > So lost+found isn't identified by its file name but by something else >

Re: [DNG] measure memory usage

2020-08-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 21 August 2020 at 22:23:16, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is there a way for process to ask about its own memory usage? Assuming the process knows its own PD, try the 24th value in /proc/PID/stat See man proc for details. Antony. -- I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a

Re: [DNG] Deleted qemu image

2020-07-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 16 July 2020 at 12:35:20, fraser kendall wrote: > I have just done the stupidest thing. I was freeing up (rm -rf) space > on what I thought was a storage directory (/srv), but I have now just > discovered that it contained a critical qemu image. The image is a W7 > VM and is still

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