Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:05:51 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20160712110551.gt18...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:49:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > ..nowadays I see Devuan falling apart exactly because Debian > > is falling apart, for details, run:

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:33:58 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160713133358.GA22089@reflex>: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, dev wrote: > > > tasks. Why these devs do these things is beyond reason. > > the main reason is that they are lazy and cannot bother to work their > way against the trend. you

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:06:24 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > > Mostly for historical reasons, I'm posting here below the trace of a > Kali Linux bug that has just been deleted from their tracker. > > Forensic distros are useful for many reasons. When minimal they can be > also more

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On 07/13/2016 09:42 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 02:51:21PM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> >> I believe Kali is a great resource, a lot of well thought >> purpose-driven work was put in it before giving up to fancy desktop >> nonsense and its roots are anyway in the idea

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 02:51:21PM +0200, Jaromil wrote: [cut] > > > I believe Kali is a great resource, a lot of well thought > purpose-driven work was put in it before giving up to fancy desktop > nonsense and its roots are anyway in the idea of a minimalist sharp > tool. some of its arm

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, dev wrote: > tasks. Why these devs do these things is beyond reason. the main reason is that they are lazy and cannot bother to work their way against the trend. you said it after all: they just curate collections of other people's software and often get more credit and

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On 07/12/2016 06:07 PM, Simon Walter wrote: On 07/12/2016 08:45 PM, vmlinux wrote: don't need Kali. most network problems can be resolved with the basics anyway: arping, arp, tcpdump, nslookup, traceroute, netcat, and iptraf. thankfully all standard tools. Problems, yes sure. What about

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, fsmithred wrote: > On 07/13/2016 01:13 AM, Ozi Traveller wrote: > > I guess gnome is there default. However, they have instructions to > > allow the user to build a custom kali for themselves using > > live-build. > >

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On 07/13/2016 01:13 AM, Ozi Traveller wrote: > I guess gnome is there default. However, they have instructions to allow > the user to build a custom kali for themselves using live-build. > http://docs.kali.org/development/live-build-a-custom-kali-iso > > Since Kali 2.0, we now support built in

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

I guess gnome is there default. However, they have instructions to allow the user to build a custom kali for themselves using live-build. http://docs.kali.org/development/live-build-a-custom-kali-iso Since Kali 2.0, we now support built in configurations for various desktop environments,

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On 07/12/2016 07:07 PM, Simon Walter wrote: > > Though I agree that the point and "grunt" style is a bit useless. Which is > why I wondered why Kali had a full blown GNOME. What about XFCE or > openbox? Something minimal please. > ___ I took a look at

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On 07/12/2016 08:45 PM, vmlinux wrote: There was a time when this sort of nonsense was heavily frowned upon. i suspect what has happened is that the user base has changed. it's difficult to learn the ropes from the cli so GUI allows the novice to do things quickly because the only skill

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

There was a time when this sort of nonsense was heavily frowned upon. i suspect what has happened is that the user base has changed. it's difficult to learn the ropes from the cli so GUI allows the novice to do things quickly because the only skill needed is point-and-grunt. many people using

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:49:13PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > ..nowadays I see Devuan falling apart exactly because Debian > is falling apart, for details, run: ' how-can-i-help '. > Sorry but I have to disagree on "Devuan falling apart", since it seems an unsupported statement

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:06:24 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160711210624.GA19545@reflex>: > > Mostly for historical reasons, I'm posting here below the trace of a > Kali Linux bug that has just been deleted from their tracker. > > Forensic distros are useful for many reasons. When minimal

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

On 07/12/2016 06:06 AM, Jaromil wrote: Mostly for historical reasons, I'm posting here below the trace of a Kali Linux bug that has just been deleted from their tracker. Forensic distros are useful for many reasons. When minimal they can be also more reliable, I guess most people here

[DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

Mostly for historical reasons, I'm posting here below the trace of a Kali Linux bug that has just been deleted from their tracker. Forensic distros are useful for many reasons. When minimal they can be also more reliable, I guess most people here convenes. So now I'm trying to get the Parrot OS