On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 21:26:45 +
Rowland Penny via Dng wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 12:53:48 -0800
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> >
> > > Rick, please stop name dropping and please stop, just stop.
> >
> > Seriously? I merely asked you, while t
Quoting Mike Bird (mgb-dev...@yosemite.net):
> I've got a test message trying to go to Rowland and it's running
> into the same problem at samba.org.
*chuckle*
Don't mind me. I'm just enjoying this timely visit from the Irony Fairy.
I'd be very surprised if Dng has the bounce processing val
On Fri January 4 2019 13:33:57 marc wrote:
> Also: This isn't strictly a problem, but the highest priority
> mail handler for samba.org doesn't seem to be running a mail server
> at the moment:
>
> samba.org. 7200IN MX 5 ns1.samba.org.
> samba.org. 7200IN
Quoting marc (marc...@welz.org.za):
> I see that smtp.samba.org seems to run exim - are the others
> experiencing bounces and disabled subscriptions also running exim ?
[Just so Dyne.org volunteers needn't explore that:]
Exim runs SMTP on my linuxmafia.org host: No pattern of bounces, no
MLM
On Fri January 4 2019 13:31:59 Rick Moen wrote:
> As I've mentioned upthread, I am a (friendly) _outsider_ to Dyne.org, who
> runs and administers Mailman and MTAs elsewhere -- and as such have no
> access to Dyne's MTA and MLM logs (nor samba.org's MTA logs). The best
> help I could think of to g
> Yes, I am totally aware of the above, but, as there is absolutely no
> reason for the dng mails sent to me being bounced and that others have
> had this happen to them, I feel the problem could be at the dng end.
Maybe it is emergent (heh!) problem requiring a particular combination
of sending a
Quoting Mike Bird (mgb-dev...@yosemite.net):
> I've been running mail servers and mailing lists for more than two
> decades.
>
> Rick if you can give Rowland specific times (+timezone) of some
> bounces that would assist Rowland's admins in finding the actual
> reason for the bounces in his mail
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 12:53:48 -0800
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
>
> > Rick, please stop name dropping and please stop, just stop.
>
> Seriously? I merely asked you, while thanking you for your work on
> Samba, to please say hullo to three of my friends
I've been running mail servers and mailing lists for more than two
decades.
Rick if you can give Rowland specific times (+timezone) of some
bounces that would assist Rowland's admins in finding the actual
reason for the bounces in his mail server's logs.
--Mike
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Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Rick, please stop name dropping and please stop, just stop.
Seriously? I merely asked you, while thanking you for your work on
Samba, to please say hullo to three of my friends and sometime
co-workers, as they are on the Samba Team with you.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 11:56:29 -0800
Rick Moen wrote:
> Correcting mistype:
>
> > Please, let's work through the scenario. You as rpe...@samba.org
> > subscribe to dng@lists.dyne.org. Hypothetically for purposes of
> > discussion, for some reason the samba.org SMTP host occasionally
> > does eit
Correcting mistype:
> Please, let's work through the scenario. You as rpe...@samba.org
> subscribe to dng@lists.dyne.org. Hypothetically for purposes of
> discussion, for some reason the samba.org SMTP host occasionally
> does either SMTP error code 45x tempfail or 45x hardfail of subscriber
Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Because, if the mails were bouncing, someone would get the bounce
> reports and tell me. I get bounce reports for the samba and
> samba-technical mailing lists (I am one of the moderators), so I know
> what they look like.
Please, let's work t
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 04:21:28 -0800
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> >
> > It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled
> > due to excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I
> > would have told by one of the Samba team l
Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
>
> It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled due to
> excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I would have
> told by one of the Samba team list moderators.
I wrote:
> dyne.org system administrators can investigate this matter, by
> examining the /var/lib/mailman/logs/bounce* log files and
> corresponding MTA log entries on lists.dyne.org -- to see when and why
> and when the bounce scores for your Dng membership for rpe...@samba.org
> has increased,
Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> It has happened again, my membership to this list has been disabled
> due to excessive bounces. I am fairly sure this isn't true, or I would
> have told by one of the Samba team list moderators.
dyne.org system administrators can investigate t
I too get 'em on my gmail account once in a while and have to confirm my
subscription.
It happens once every 2 months or so, therefore in my case I would not
consider it excessive. (-;
Clarke
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On 29/10/2018 02:40, Linux O'Beardly wrote:
Hey all,
Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors
from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account. I'm not
having any issues with any of my other mailing lists.
Happened to me too.
Bye!
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 09:40:57PM -0400, Linux O'Beardly wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors from
> the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account. I'm not having any
> issues with any of my other mailing lists.
>
> --
> Linux O'Bea
I don't know if it's related, but I noticed that some emails aren't
getting put in the lists.dyne.org mailing list archives.
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 09:44:43 +, Rowland wrote in message
<20181029094443.146cb...@devstation.samdom.example.com>:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:38:47 +0100
> Harald Arnesen wrote:
>
> > Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]:
> >
> > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce
Me too. Twice recently and I am using gmail.
Den mån 29 okt. 2018 09:44Rowland Penny skrev:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:38:47 +0100
> Harald Arnesen wrote:
>
> > Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]:
> >
> > > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors
> > > from the DNG ma
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:38:47 +0100
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]:
>
> > Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors
> > from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account. I'm not
> > having any issues with any of my other mailing li
Linux O'Beardly [10/29/18 2:40 AM]:
> Is anyone else using a gmail account getting excessive bounce errors
> from the DNG mailing list? It keeps locking out my account. I'm not
> having any issues with any of my other mailing lists.
Yes, same here.
--
Hilsen Harald
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Daniel, again, thank you for your efforts to collect diagnostic data for
the Devuan Project, and for your care and precision.
I respect the reasons you're making DMARC work for your domain, and
certainly have no argument with you doing so (though I do not come to
the same conclusion for my own dom
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> SPF breaks mailing lists and mail forwarders - and this is NOT (IMO)
> fixable without introducing a wide open front gate for spammers to
> ride through and completely bypass SPF.
No. it does not break mailing lists. It _does_ break other common t
For what it's worth, SPF, DKIM and DMARC were developed by largely
different sets of people, who disagreed without each other about what
was acceptable tradeoffs, what was doable and more.
The "they" you
mention act senselessly because it is not one set of people. Patching
up email against sp
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> 1. SPF is a friendlier solution and enough for this.
SPF breaks mailing lists and mail forwarders - and this is NOT (IMO) fixable
without introducing a wide open front gate for spammers to ride through and
completely bypass SPF.
So consider that *I* publish an SPF recor
1. SPF is a friendlier solution and enough for this.
3. GPG signatures is more standard and friendlier solution for this.
This kind of tricky solutions (as DKIM) only make people to move to
other easier but non-neutral technologies, hosted services such as
WhatsApp or web-based.
El 03/08/17 a l
Quoting Daniel Abrecht (d...@danielabrecht.ch):
> I'm sorry, I'm using DMARC, and I didn't get the DMARC report about the
> bounced mails, probably because I forgot a DMARC DNS entry for the
> report receiving mail address. I have changed my DMARC policy from
> reject to quarantine for now.
It wo
I'm sorry, I'm using DMARC, and I didn't get the DMARC report about the
bounced mails, probably because I forgot a DMARC DNS entry for the
report receiving mail address. I have changed my DMARC policy from
reject to quarantine for now.
That said, I won't remove the DMARC record completely, and I p
Oh, follow-up (and this, too, is for Devuan's listadmins' attention in
particular):
> There is an (IMO unhappy but least-bad-available) kludge setting in
> Mailman's admin WebUI to make the MLM compensate for DMARC brain-damage:
> You go to Privacy Options, Sender Filters, item 'Action to take w
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> That's the important thing to look for - and my money is it's related to SPF
> and/or DMARC.
It won't be SPF.
My domain has a strong SPF policy:
:r! dig -t txt linuxmafia.com +short
"v=spf1 a mx -all"
...and no mailing list post from me or my u
Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org):
> I am a bit puzzled about this one, we had some reports of the problem
> so far, which hasn't occurred before on any other dyne list and is not
> really reproducible.
>
> what we notice is that our mail server is under some quite heavy load
> and we are workin
thanks everyone for the insights! I also suspect is our use of
SPF... and the DKIM signature not matching is also strange and to be
investigated. I'm asking our mail server admin, hoping he has time for
it (he is volunteering this position and has lots on his plate,
considering is also the maintai
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 16:21:34 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message
<20170802142134.vlfhg5z4ccbrueb7@reflex>:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2017, Emiliano Marini wrote:
>
> >Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me:
..I have this happening all the time, 3 times in July now, on the 4th,
10'th
On 02-08-17 16:41, Simon Hobson wrote:
Antony Stone wrote:
Is it possible to check the mail server logs for delivery failures on the
problematic addresses (which is presumably what the warning email means by
"bounces") to see what reason was given by the receiving server?
That's the important
Antony Stone wrote:
> Is it possible to check the mail server logs for delivery failures on the
> problematic addresses (which is presumably what the warning email means by
> "bounces") to see what reason was given by the receiving server?
That's the important thing to look for - and my money
Thanks Jaromil,
This time happened while I was out, but next time I will report it right
away.
Cheers,
Emiliano.
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2017, Emiliano Marini wrote:
>
> >Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me:
> >
> >"You
On Wednesday 02 August 2017 at 16:21:34, Jaromil wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2017, Emiliano Marini wrote:
> >Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me:
> >
> >"Your membership in the mailing list Dng has been disabled due to
> >excessive bounces The last bounce recei
On Wed, 02 Aug 2017, Emiliano Marini wrote:
>Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me:
>
>"Your membership in the mailing list Dng has been disabled due to
>excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
>23-Jul-2017."
>
>I have a Gmail acco
On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 10:20 -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote:
> Sorry to bother, but it's the second time this happens to me:
>
> "Your membership in the mailing list Dng has been disabled due to
> excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> 23-Jul-2017."
>
> I have a Gmail accoun
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