Re: [DNSOP] abandoning ANAME and standardizing CNAME at apex

2018-06-23 Thread Evan Hunt
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 07:43:19PM -0700, Joe Abley wrote: > I think a pragmatic solution needs to work in unsigned zones. +1, but, an unsigned zone could still return an NSEC-style bitmap. It wouldn't be provably correct, but neither is any other unsigned response. You could actually add the bi

Re: [DNSOP] abandoning ANAME and standardizing CNAME at apex

2018-06-23 Thread Paul Vixie
Joe Abley wrote: On Jun 23, 2018, at 22:45, Paul Vixie wrote: Joe Abley wrote: I think a pragmatic solution needs to work in unsigned zones. ... can someone ask the IAB to rule on whether any new internet technology standard should address unsigned DNS zones, or for that matter, IPv4 ne

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sonoda-dnsop-dnslb-03.txt

2018-06-23 Thread Manabu Sonoda
Dear DNSOP, I wrote LB RR that is one of the XNAME RR, include geolocation and weight load balancing information. I made PoC resolver and name server and I tried some stub resolver use LB RR. But no good results. I think that even if name server and full resolver implement XNAME, Stub resolver c

Re: [DNSOP] abandoning ANAME and standardizing CNAME at apex

2018-06-23 Thread Shumon Huque
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:45 PM Paul Vixie wrote: > > Joe Abley wrote: > > I think a pragmatic solution needs to work in unsigned zones. > > > > ... > > can someone ask the IAB to rule on whether any new internet technology > standard should address unsigned DNS zones, or for that matter, IPv4 >

Re: [DNSOP] abandoning ANAME and standardizing CNAME at apex

2018-06-23 Thread Joe Abley
On Jun 23, 2018, at 22:45, Paul Vixie wrote: > Joe Abley wrote: >> I think a pragmatic solution needs to work in unsigned zones. >> >> ... > > can someone ask the IAB to rule on whether any new internet technology > standard should address unsigned DNS zones, or for that matter, IPv4 networks? >

Re: [DNSOP] abandoning ANAME and standardizing CNAME at apex

2018-06-23 Thread Paul Vixie
Joe Abley wrote: I think a pragmatic solution needs to work in unsigned zones. ... can someone ask the IAB to rule on whether any new internet technology standard should address unsigned DNS zones, or for that matter, IPv4 networks? "let's move on." -- P Vixie

Re: [DNSOP] abandoning ANAME and standardizing CNAME at apex

2018-06-23 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Victor, On Jun 23, 2018, at 17:04, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > [...] > Yes, but if they have the NSEC bitmap, they can follow the XNAME > without asking again. > [...] > That's already handled by NSEC/NSEC3. I think a pragmatic solution needs to work in unsigned zones. The demand for this kind

Re: [DNSOP] 2nd Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel

2018-06-23 Thread Paul Hoffman
The document can move forward as-is, but Joe Abley's proposed changes all look good as well. --Paul Hoffman ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] SIG(0) useful (and used?)

2018-06-23 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 07:47:16AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > SIG(0) has miles of potential. Active Directory shows that hosts updating > their own addresses is useful. And not just their own addresses. On my TODO list is making DANE more manageable by (optionally) allowing the holder of a pr

Re: [DNSOP] abandoning ANAME and standardizing CNAME at apex

2018-06-23 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 07:59:34AM -0700, Joe Abley wrote: > > Petr Špaček wrote: > >> > >> Given that resolver side somehow works already ... > >> could we standardize this obvious violation of RFC 1035? > > > > The feature I would like is CNAME and other data (typically CNAME + MX + > > TXT), b

Re: [DNSOP] HTTP dns-alt-svc draft

2018-06-23 Thread Shumon Huque
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 1:23 PM Ben Schwartz wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:51 AM Shumon Huque wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 12:00 AM Shumon Huque wrote: >> >>> In other threads, Erik Nygren suggested that we review the proposed >>> DNS record for HTTP Alternative Services draft: >>>

Re: [DNSOP] HTTP dns-alt-svc draft

2018-06-23 Thread Shumon Huque
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 1:12 PM Ben Schwartz wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 12:01 AM Shumon Huque wrote: > >> >> It actually has similarities to SRV. But offers more capabilities >> to web applications, such as http protocol version selection, and >> has an extensible format for the ALTSVC fie

Re: [DNSOP] DNS cookies and multi-vendor anycast incompatibility

2018-06-23 Thread Evan Hunt
On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 10:26:55PM -0400, Warren Kumari wrote: > So, if I set both to use their (non-default) of SHA256 (and set the same > secret:-)) do they actually generate compatible cookies? > I'd guess / assume so, but I haven't tested this... That's the intention. Mukund recently pointed

Re: [DNSOP] HTTP dns-alt-svc draft

2018-06-23 Thread Shumon Huque
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 12:00 AM Shumon Huque wrote: > In other threads, Erik Nygren suggested that we review the proposed > DNS record for HTTP Alternative Services draft: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schwartz-httpbis-dns-alt-svc-02 > (You might also want to read RFC7838 for bac