[DNSOP] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-07: (with COMMENT)

2020-03-09 Thread Barry Leiba via Datatracker
Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to h

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-09 Thread Paul Vixie
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 02:42:01 UTC Erik Nygren wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:32 PM Paul Vixie wrote: > > On Monday, 9 March 2020 20:56:39 UTC Ben Schwartz wrote: > > > ... > > > > i propose that section 6.2 for "port", and all references to same, be > > removed. > > We discussed this so

Re: [DNSOP] AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec

2020-03-09 Thread Shumon Huque
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 3:21 PM Shumon Huque wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 9:24 PM Warren Kumari wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Firstly, thank you for a well written and easy to understand document. >> >> I have some comments which I think should be addressed before I start >> IETF LC, but the

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-09 Thread Erik Nygren
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:32 PM Paul Vixie wrote: > On Monday, 9 March 2020 20:56:39 UTC Ben Schwartz wrote: > > It occurs to me that I hit "publish" on this draft without updating the > > release notes, so I'll mention some of the many changes since -01 here > > instead: > > > > ... > > > > As

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Hoffman wrote: > This confuses a harm purposely caused by authorities (in this case, the > IETF), with self-harm (in this case, a zone owner who didn't hear about > the importance of doing an algorithm rollover, or did hear but didn't > care). They are quite different. Also I think you hav

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-09 Thread Paul Vixie
On Monday, 9 March 2020 20:56:39 UTC Ben Schwartz wrote: > It occurs to me that I hit "publish" on this draft without updating the > release notes, so I'll mention some of the many changes since -01 here > instead: > > ... > > As always, please review and send comments. We also expect to do a >

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Mar 9, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > > Which is why the timetable aims to stop the use of SHA-1 for signing > > before it stops the use of SHA-1 for validating, assuming > > optimistically that we actually have 2 years available. (I fear we > > don't.) > > Who is

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 9, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > > Paul Hoffman wrote: >> >> This draft is about discouraging people from signing with SHA-1 by >> directly harming them (implementations that will no longer be able to >> validate their signatures). While threats of direct harm are probably >> eff

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Wouters wrote: > > Obsoleting really takes time. And the path is to first stop producing > SHA1 signatures, and once that number goes down, to start discouraging > consuming SHA1 signatures. If you immediately say MUST NOT for validating, > you are making 2211449 + 287467 = 2.5M domains more

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 10 Mar 2020, at 12:42, Paul Wouters wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, Tony Finch wrote: > >> The aim of this is to deprecate SHA-1 algorithms 5 and 7 more vigorously. >> I've put in a fairly specific timetable for sake of argument, basically to >> set up the death of SHA-1 as next year's DNS

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Hoffman wrote: > > This draft is about discouraging people from signing with SHA-1 by > directly harming them (implementations that will no longer be able to > validate their signatures). While threats of direct harm are probably > effective at getting to a desired outcome, they do not repres

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, Tony Finch wrote: The aim of this is to deprecate SHA-1 algorithms 5 and 7 more vigorously. I've put in a fairly specific timetable for sake of argument, basically to set up the death of SHA-1 as next year's DNS "flag day", unless some clever cryptanalysis forces it to happen

Re: [DNSOP] commenting draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-01

2020-03-09 Thread Ben Schwartz
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:48 AM Daniel Migault wrote: > Hi, > > I read draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-01. Please find find some comments > (with my questions) below I had while reading linearly the document. I hope > this will help. > Thanks for the comments, and sorry about the delay. > > Yo

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 9, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > > The aim of this is to deprecate SHA-1 algorithms 5 and 7 more vigorously. > I've put in a fairly specific timetable for sake of argument, basically to > set up the death of SHA-1 as next year's DNS "flag day", unless some > clever cryptanalysis fo

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-05.txt

2020-03-09 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : Message Digest for DNS Zones Authors : Duane Wessels Piet Barber

[DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-sha-ll-not-00.txt (fwd)

2020-03-09 Thread Tony Finch
The aim of this is to deprecate SHA-1 algorithms 5 and 7 more vigorously. I've put in a fairly specific timetable for sake of argument, basically to set up the death of SHA-1 as next year's DNS "flag day", unless some clever cryptanalysis forces it to happen sooner. I'm afraid it's a rough first p

Re: [DNSOP] Second Working Group Last Call for: Message Digest for DNS Zones

2020-03-09 Thread Michael StJohns
On 3/9/2020 4:46 PM, Wessels, Duane wrote: Michael StJohns pointed out (Feb 25) that a verifier that does not recognise a particular ZONEMD Scheme and/or Hash Algorithm may be unable to create the required placeholders, and therefore unable to perform a verification using any (Scheme,Algorithm) a

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-09 Thread Ben Schwartz
It occurs to me that I hit "publish" on this draft without updating the release notes, so I'll mention some of the many changes since -01 here instead: - All changes to Alt-Svc have been removed. I would like to see some updates to Alt-Svc, but since this draft is now in DNSOP, and any changes t

Re: [DNSOP] Second Working Group Last Call for: Message Digest for DNS Zones

2020-03-09 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Mar 9, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Dick Franks wrote: > > >>> [3.1 para 1] >>> >>> In preparation for calculating the zone digest, any existing ZONEMD >>> + and covering RRSIG >>> records at the zone apex are first deleted. >>> >>> [3.1 para 1] >>> >>> Prior to calculation of the digest, and

Re: [DNSOP] Second Working Group Last Call for: Message Digest for DNS Zones

2020-03-09 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:10 PM, Dick Franks wrote: > > draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-04 is still a work in progress, with a > number of internal contradictions to be resolved. > > > [1.2 para 1] > > ... The procedures for digest calculation and DNSSEC > signing are similar (i.e., both

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-httpssvc-02.txt

2020-03-09 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : Service binding and parameter specification via the DNS (DNS SVCB and HTTPSSVC) Authors : Ben

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7816bis-04.txt

2020-03-09 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : DNS Query Name Minimisation to Improve Privacy Authors : Stephane Bortzmeyer

Re: [DNSOP] Second Working Group Last Call for: Message Digest for DNS Zones

2020-03-09 Thread Dick Franks
Response in line On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 07:20, Mark Andrews wrote: >8 > > [1.2 para 1] > > > > ... The procedures for digest calculation and DNSSEC > > signing are similar (i.e., both require the same ordering of RRs) and > > can be done in parallel. > > > > There is no requirement for th

[DNSOP] Extended Submissions Deadline: 33rd DNS-OARC Workshop, Paris, France, May 09 - 10th 2020

2020-03-09 Thread Ralph Dolmans
** We have extended the submissions deadline for the 33rd DNS-OARC ** workshop to March 19th 2020 (midnight CEST). The 33rd DNS-OARC Workshop will take place at the Marriott Rive Gauche Hotel & Conference Center in Paris, France on May 9th and 10th 2020. It is co-located with and will take place r

[DNSOP] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-07: (with COMMENT)

2020-03-09 Thread Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to h

Re: [DNSOP] Second Working Group Last Call for: Message Digest for DNS Zones

2020-03-09 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 9 Mar 2020, at 17:10, Dick Franks wrote: > > draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-04 is still a work in progress, with a > number of internal contradictions to be resolved. > > > [1.2 para 1] > > ... The procedures for digest calculation and DNSSEC > signing are similar (i.e., both re