Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-06-01 Thread 张海阔
. -- original email-- >From: Evan Hunt >Reply-To: >To: haikuo >Cc: matthaeus.wan...@uni-due.de, dnsop@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt >Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 16:09:59 + > > If the verification is failed, it should r

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-31 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 31 May 2014, 张海阔 wrote: I think it is the problem which came from UDP protocal. It maybe better if this problem can be handled in UDP protocal It appears you have a solution that is looking for a problem or an excuse to get deployed. Of cause, all of problem which I mentioned in the

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-31 Thread Evan Hunt
> If the verification is failed, it should response "Bogus" > If the resolver do not get enough data to do the verification, then the > resolver which weak trust anchor should be response with "insecure" DNS > package. it is up to end-user or netizens to decide what to do next. If the resolver di

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-31 Thread 张海阔
ect: Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt >Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 20:35:27 +1000 > In message , "=?gb2312?B?1cW 6o8Cr?=" writes: > The TCP is an optional protocal for DNS query at the auth name server side, a > nd is not mandatory, > so not every DNS service

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-31 Thread 张海阔
old the end-user that "it is a insecure DNS package", I think the end-user has the ability to decide to drop/accept it. thanks -- original email -- >From: Matth�us Wander >Reply-To: >To: dnsop@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-we

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-31 Thread Mark Andrews
e insane to disable TCP if you are serving a signed zone. Mark > -- origin email -- > >From: Paul Wouters > >Reply-To: > >To: "zhanghai...@cnnic.cn" > >Cc: dnsop > >Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anch

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-31 Thread 张海阔
-- >From: Paul Wouters >Reply-To: >To: "zhanghai...@cnnic.cn" >Cc: dnsop >Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt >Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 14:11:45 -0400 (EDT) > On Fri, 30 May 2014, zhanghai...@cnnic.cn wrote: > Name: draft-zhang-d

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-30 Thread Ralf Weber
Moin! On 30 May 2014, at 11:32, Evan Hunt wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 02:11:45PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: >> Note also that for this problem, there is already a commonly deployed >> solution at the application level that addresses this situation, such >> as https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projec

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-30 Thread Evan Hunt
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 02:11:45PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > Note also that for this problem, there is already a commonly deployed > solution at the application level that addresses this situation, such > as https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/dnssec-trigger/ which will inform > the user the netwo

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 30 May 2014, zhanghai...@cnnic.cn wrote: Name: draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor URL:  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/dr

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-30 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <5388821c.8000...@uni-due.de>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Matth=E4us_Wander?= wr ites: > > Hi, > > Section 4: > >If the resolver was > >configured with a weak trust anchor and got nothing after sending a > >request with DO bit set, then it should clear DO bit in the EDNS0 in > >the

Re: [DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-30 Thread Matthäus Wander
Hi, Section 4: >If the resolver was >configured with a weak trust anchor and got nothing after sending a >request with DO bit set, then it should clear DO bit in the EDNS0 in >the query message and query again to the authoritative name server. >So it could receive a normal DNS

[DNSOP] draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor.txt

2014-05-30 Thread zhanghai...@cnnic.cn
Hi everybody here, A new version of I-D, draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchor-00.txthas been successfully submitted and posted to the?IETF repository.?Name: draft-zhang-dnsop-weak-trust-anchorRevision: 00Title: Weak Trust Anchor IntroductionDocument date: 2014-05-30Group