Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-24 Thread John Heidemann
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 09:23:50 +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > > >In message <17673.1448400...@dash.isi.edu>, John Heidemann writes: >> On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:25:29 +, "Wessels, Duane" wrote: >> > >> >> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Jinmei >> >> >> >> On M

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-24 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <17673.1448400...@dash.isi.edu>, John Heidemann writes: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:25:29 +, "Wessels, Duane" wrote: > > > >> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > >> > >> Hi Jinmei > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:31:23AM -0800, $B?@L@C#:H(B wrote: > >>> At

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-24 Thread John Heidemann
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:25:29 +, "Wessels, Duane" wrote: > >> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: >> >> Hi Jinmei >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:31:23AM -0800, 神明達哉 wrote: >>> At Mon, 23 Nov 2015 21:37:48 +0530, >>> Mukund Sivaraman wrote: >>> While looking at a bu

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread 神明達哉
At Tue, 24 Nov 2015 01:28:26 +0530, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > > I'm not sure if I understand the concern...do you mean, for example, > > if an AXFR consists of the following 3 messages: > > > > Message1: beginning SOA and some RRs > > Message2: some intermediate RRs > > Message3: some more interm

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi Duane On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 08:25:29PM +, Wessels, Duane wrote: > TCP preserves the order of delivery, so if the messages are received > in the order above, it is an AXFR/IXFR protocol violation by the > server. The server must send Message4 last. Because 5966bis talks about reordering,

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > > Hi Jinmei > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:31:23AM -0800, 神明達哉 wrote: >> At Mon, 23 Nov 2015 21:37:48 +0530, >> Mukund Sivaraman wrote: >> >>> While looking at a bug last week in an implementation of 5966bis and >>> AXFR, I found that

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi Duane On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 07:42:16PM +, Wessels, Duane wrote: > The document authors have discussed this and we feel the addition of this > paragraph in section 7 addresses the issue that you've raised: > >Note that AXFR [RFC5936] and IXFR [RFC1995] have the property that >one

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi Jinmei On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:31:23AM -0800, 神明達哉 wrote: > At Mon, 23 Nov 2015 21:37:48 +0530, > Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > > > While looking at a bug last week in an implementation of 5966bis and > > AXFR, I found that there's no explicit mention of AXFR and out-of-order > > replies. AXFR

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > > It seems that AXFR messages would have to be sent in order to avoid > confusion at the client about when a transfer correctly completed > vs. when it timed out. While they can be multiplexed with other DNS > messages, the individual mess

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread 神明達哉
At Mon, 23 Nov 2015 21:37:48 +0530, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > While looking at a bug last week in an implementation of 5966bis and > AXFR, I found that there's no explicit mention of AXFR and out-of-order > replies. AXFR replies [RFC 5936] can arrive in several messages over > TCP. While 5966bis

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi all [sending this to only dnsop@ for our discussion] On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 05:58:08AM -0800, The IESG wrote: > > The IESG has received a request from the Domain Name System Operations WG > (dnsop) to consider the following document: > - 'DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements'

[DNSOP] Last Call: (DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements) to Internet Standard

2015-11-23 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Domain Name System Operations WG (dnsop) to consider the following document: - 'DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements' as Internet Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this actio