Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-26 Thread Yann Dirson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:36:16AM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: > > But now that we are at it, do you know if there are any other good free > > (GPL, BSD, whatever) tools for authoring and rendering MathML besides Amaya, > > PassiveTeX and a few other? > > Not really. However, Amaya uses ThotLib de

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-24 Thread Yann Dirson
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 03:18:38PM +0200, Peter Ring wrote: > Sorry, not enough coffee. :) > But now that we are at it, do you know if there are any other good free > (GPL, BSD, whatever) tools for authoring and rendering MathML besides Amaya, > PassiveTeX and a few other? Not really. However

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-23 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Phillip Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | I then go and make a text file with the PCDATA I want to | see, and use the and import a non-graphic | anyway. Much less hassle for me if I could just use PCDATA in an | informalequation. Yeah, we'll that's a loophole :-)

Re: FW: Antwort: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-23 Thread Jirka Kosek
Phillip Shelton wrote: > Any hope that DocBook would support MathML native? There is MathML customization for DocBook (see www.oasis-open.org/docbook/). With it you can use MathML inside of equation and inlineequation. However typing MathML without any supporting tools is very sluggish. ---

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-23 Thread Peter Ring
Message- From: Yann Dirson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:38 AM To: Phillip Shelton Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. > Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) displays (some) MathML, is free > (like in free beer), but not suit

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-23 Thread Yann Dirson
> Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) displays (some) MathML, is free > (like in free beer), but not suited for general consumption. Er, sorry to disturb this thread, but this is at least partly wrong. Amaya is free "like in free speech" as well as "like in free beer", and this is probably the most

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Mark Wroth
At Norms' request, I entered an RFE to make "text" equations possible, something that, oddly enough had never occurred to me, despite being frustrated over this issue for several years now. At 01.10.22 10:49 +1000, Phillip Shelton wrote: > > -Original Message- > > / Phillip Shelton <[EM

FW: Antwort: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Phillip Shelton
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2001 1:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Antwort: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. >> I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of >> the DocBook core, and I'd like support for

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Phillip Shelton
> -Original Message- > You're not supposed to put generated files under revision control; just the > source and the script (or whatever) that generates the files. Um, I wasn't. Each equation at present needs its own source. Each source is only 16-140 char's long. Here are my first two e

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-22 Thread Peter Ring
sed to cache rendering of the math data. Kind regards Peter Ring -Original Message- From: Phillip Shelton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 2:30 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. > -Original Message- > It&#

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
> -Original Message- > / Phillip Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > | I suppose I want to know Why this restriction. > > With respect to equations: > > 1. Equation and InformalEquation only contain graphics. That's because >there's no markup for the equation content in D

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
-Original Message- > From: M. Wroth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:25 PM > To: Roman Suzi > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. > > > I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of &

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-21 Thread Phillip Shelton
First, thankyou Mark, for stating the RFE much better then I would have. > -Original Message- > But I could live with support for inline and displayed > equations, which > contain PCDATA (which gets me the ISO math symbols), and sub- and > superscripts. If I got to wish for more, I'd

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread M. Wroth
With regard to my comments on including math markup in the core DocBook At 03:55 PM 10/19/01 +0200, Peter Ring wrote: >Could you be more specific? > >Which math notations should be part of the core? > >What processing should be expected? MathML would be fine, based on my limited experience with

RE: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Peter Ring
Suzi Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations. I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of the DocBook core, and I'd like support for equations to be part of the core, not an extension. I seem to be a minority opinion, though :-) At 05:17 PM 10/19/0

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Roman Suzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | There is MathML for that. probably it could be somehow | integrated with DocBook? Already done, http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/mathml/ Be seeing you, nor

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Norman Walsh
/ "M. Wroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | While I'd rather see some form of math markup become part of the | DocBook core, allowing such equations as can be expressed in "text" | would be useful to me. (Since you asked :-) File an RFE please, http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook/

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread M. Wroth
I'm at least generally aware of MathML. But it's not part of the DocBook core, and I'd like support for equations to be part of the core, not an extension. I seem to be a minority opinion, though :-) At 05:17 PM 10/19/01 +0400, Roman Suzi wrote: >On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, M. Wroth wrote: > > > >Wi

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Roman Suzi
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, M. Wroth wrote: > >With respect to equations: > > > >1. Equation and InformalEquation only contain graphics. That's because > >there's no markup for the equation content in DocBook. It could be > >argued that some equations would be fine in ASCII and we should have >

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread M. Wroth
At 07:23 AM 10/19/01 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: >/ Phillip Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: >| I suppose I want to know Why this restriction. > >With respect to equations: > >1. Equation and InformalEquation only contain graphics. That's because >there's no markup for the equation

Re: FW: DOCBOOK: Equations.

2001-10-19 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Phillip Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | I suppose I want to know Why this restriction. With respect to equations: 1. Equation and InformalEquation only contain graphics. That's because there's no markup for the equation content in DocBook. It could be argued that some equ