Lol, that would be interesting. I can try it from a few different machine
tomorrow. Err, today. Ooops, i had better try to sleep. It so late it's gone
past being early again!
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Jean Hollis Weber
To: documentation@global.libreoffice
It's correct for me, when I open it in the browser directly from the
link on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
or when I download it and open it.
Sounds like a problem at your end at this point.
--Jean
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 05:34 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> The tool-tips
Hi :)
The tool-tips when i hover with the mouse says
0113GS3-GettingStartedWithMacros.pdf
and when i download it it's called the same
0113GS3-GettingStartedWithMacros.pdf
and that's the name that appears when i go in to edit the wiki. There doesn't
appear to be a redirect hidden in the page's cod
Hi :)
Lol, phew. I thought you were on a wrong track but wasn't completely sure.
The longer gaps between series 3.3.x releases (and it's generally better
stability) made me think it was stable branch and 3.4.x was development as
various other OpenSource projects do. But i think that's not th
OK, something's wrong; the wiki may be pointing to the wrong filename,
not the file I just uploaded. I found this problem on a couple of
other GS chapters in the past; the wiki has some old files on it that
are not being updated as they should.
The website simply points to the wiki, so yes there i
I have now done this. --Jean
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 10:06 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> Dan Lewis is revising the draft chapters of the Base Guide that he
> produced some time ago. Some of those draft chapters needed a *lot* of
> editing, so I assume he's doing that. (I haven't looked at this o
Hi :)
I just tried it with the Macro Chapter and it came out as just under 1Mb, 905Kb
to be exact, compared against 542.3Kb without tags. I don't know how to upload
it to the wiki and there are probably other things i haven't done too.
Regards from
Tom :)
Thanks for that clarification, Tom. I'm sure I once knew that but had
totally forgotten. That makes a lot of my recent assumptions and
thinking obsolete.
I need to re-think the arguments for one set of files (like Nino
suggested) or two -- not an archived set vs a live set, but separate
sets for
Hi :(
It's still the wrong one on the wiki and on the website
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
(same file?)
GS Ch13 "Getting Started With Macros" The Odt that is uploaded doesn't have
the
comparison stuff.
Regards from
Tom :)
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 06:48 +0300, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi Sigrid, Jean, Tom,
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Sigrid Carrera
> wrote:
> > Are you sure? The mail from Malte Timmermann said something that tagged
> > pdf's are 30 - 50 % bigger than the non-tagged ones. And in this case I
> >
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 06:45 +0300, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi Jean,
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> > * Guide aimed specifically at technical writers and/or other "power
> > users". There is a DocPlan and some work done by students earlier, which
> > could be a starti
Most of the screenshots are in the silver theme. Only a subset are
something else. IMO at this point the best way forward for 3.4 is to
update using that theme when updated pix are needed. 3.4.2 is out and
live; let's get the updates done ASAP, so we're not still mucking around
with them when the n
Hi :)
No extra work! :) You just tick a box when exporting to Pdf. The box is in
the
pop-up that appears when you choose to export as Pdf. Job done.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: David Nelson
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 3 August, 2011 4
Hi :)
I'm sure there is some confusion somewhere. The 3.3.x series is not "older"
and
the 3.4.x "new". Both series are being developed alongside each other.
The next release of LO is due to be the
3.3.4 due out on Aug 17th give or take a day or 2. Then the
3.4.3 on Aug 31st and
3.4.4 on
Hi Sigrid, Jean, Tom,
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Sigrid Carrera
wrote:
> Are you sure? The mail from Malte Timmermann said something that tagged pdf's
> are 30 - 50 % bigger than the non-tagged ones. And in this case I trust
> Malte, because he's the developer working on that stuff.
My 2
Hi Jean,
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> * Guide aimed specifically at technical writers and/or other "power
> users". There is a DocPlan and some work done by students earlier, which
> could be a starting point, but IMO it's really too low-level. Their work
> might go
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 12:35 +0200, Nino Novak wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 2. August 2011, um 11:14:22 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber:
> > David,
> > I'll respond to the rest of your note later, but for now I want to
> >
> > address just one item:
> > > > We can then copy those files into the Drafts spaces, u
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 13:05 +0200, Nino Novak wrote:
> For end users the file name should be kept as simple as possible but not
> missing *important* info. If you really intend to offer a complete set
> of new documents for each minor version step, the version info should go
> into the file nam
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 19:48 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> I don't think the "Keyboard Shortcuts" & "Creating Web-pages" should be
> dropped. But that's because i think of the GS as a general overview of all
> the
> apps and everything, rather than as a beginners guide. I was hoping the
> keyboa
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 20:27 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Blimey!
> I "got a tad carried away" today! I've stopped editing the wiki for today
> and
> probably wont touch it for a few months now! There are still a few things
> that
> annoy me but they don't seem to be important just yet.
> Thanks
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 20:49 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> The Accessibility list has suddenly started being very active this week. If
> anyone is bored and looking for something to do then the Assistive Tech guide
> might be appreciated. Apparently Orca causes LO to crash.
Info on using
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 21:28 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I have played around with a few simple little files at home and found the
> increase is usually about 1% but occasionally reaches 5%.
I think it depends on the complexity of the files, for example whether
they contain tables and fi
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 14:40 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> The Macros chapter's Pdf needs replacing fairly quickly. At the moment it
> shows
> editing changes with deleted text in red and scored through with a line.
>
> The Odt is fine, it's just the Pdf that's gone wonky.
>
Should be
Dan Lewis is revising the draft chapters of the Base Guide that he
produced some time ago. Some of those draft chapters needed a *lot* of
editing, so I assume he's doing that. (I haven't looked at this one yet;
just passing on the info.)
I will collect this chapter from the ODFAuthors website and
Hi :)
It was the only one. I have had a quick look at all the rest and they are all
fine.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Jean Weber
To: "documentation@global.libreoffice.org"
Sent: Tue, 2 August, 2011 23:53:09
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Macro Ch
Tom, these chapters still need a HUGE amount of work before they are suitable
for release to users. John's rebranding is only a start. So don't get too
excited. :-)
Jean
On 03/08/2011, at 5:34, Tom Davies wrote:
> Wow!!
> I must have missed this! Good work on the toughest app to write for :)
Yike! I'll fix that today, I'd no one else gets to it first. Thanks for the
head's-up, Tom.
Jean
On 02/08/2011, at 23:40, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> The Macros chapter's Pdf needs replacing fairly quickly. At the moment it
> shows
> editing changes with deleted text in red and scored th
On 02/08/2011, at 22:11, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> Would it make sense for the Chapters on each specific app to be repeated as
> an
> overview chapter in each of the guides dedicated to that app? The GS chapter
> on
> "Getting Started with Writer" would be the same as the Writers Guide'
Hi :)
Ahah, i thought i had a good reason to think they would be larger. I might
have
another go at the weekend but this time using the chapters. I could easily be
mistaken and certainly would trust the dev rather than a tiny sample.
Regards from
Tom :)
Hi Tom,
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 20:49:00 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> The Accessibility list has suddenly started being very active this week. If
> anyone is bored and looking for something to do then the Assistive Tech guide
> might be appreciated. Apparently Orca causes LO to crash.
Hi :)
I have played around with a few simple little files at home and found the
increase is usually about 1% but occasionally reaches 5%.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Jean Hollis Weber
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 2 August, 2011 0:24:55
Blimey again!
Documentation about that might be really useful. Preferably focussing on
MariaDb (imo) rather than MySql if that makes any difference. Good work Jay,
thanks :)
Regards from
Tom :)
From: planas
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: T
Hi :)
The Accessibility list has suddenly started being very active this week. If
anyone is bored and looking for something to do then the Assistive Tech guide
might be appreciated. Apparently Orca causes LO to crash.
It seems that Tagged Pdfs are only about 5% (or much less) larger than no
Wow!!
I must have missed this! Good work on the toughest app to write for :)
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)
From: John Cleland
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 16 July, 2011 23:09:36
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide
Hi David/
Blimey!
I "got a tad carried away" today! I've stopped editing the wiki for today and
probably wont touch it for a few months now! There are still a few things that
annoy me but they don't seem to be important just yet.
Thanks all :) Good fun!
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)
___
Hi :)
I think there is a bit more time to really get into the work this time. There
is proper LibreOffice documentation covering almost all except the very latest
features. So, it's still a race but not so bad this time :)
I don't think the "Keyboard Shortcuts" & "Creating Web-pages" should be
Hi :)
Thanks, i will copy&paste that to the other places as i update the dates.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Nino Novak
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 2 August, 2011 11:22:31
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] wiki page
Am Dienstag, 2.
Hi :)
For screen-shots the vast majority of the docs team back then decided to try to
be consistent but a couple of us quite liked the idea of using a variety of
themes. It would look messy and 'unprofessional' unless done in a structured
artistic way (very time consuming) and anyway the rest
Hi :)
I like the idea of folders such as
English Content > Documentation > Writer Guide > V3.3.x
English Content > Documentation > Writer Guide > V3.4.x
rather than
English Content > Documentation > V3.3.x > Writer Guide
English Content > Documentation > V3.4.x > Writer Guide
Either way around
Hi :)
The Macros chapter's Pdf needs replacing fairly quickly. At the moment it
shows
editing changes with deleted text in red and scored through with a line.
The Odt is fine, it's just the Pdf that's gone wonky.
I used Alfresco to get rough dates onto the wiki fairly fast. Now i am getting
Hi,
2011/8/2 Nino Novak :
>
> see
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Contributions/Pepe
>
> @Tom:
> in such cases it's good to inform the admins (cc to website or admins
> list)
>
Thx for informing, the user is blocked.
We have not much spam as in the earlier stages of the wiki. The bot
Hi :)
Would it make sense for the Chapters on each specific app to be repeated as an
overview chapter in each of the guides dedicated to that app? The GS chapter
on
"Getting Started with Writer" would be the same as the Writers Guide's
"Introducing Writer" and editing either in Alfresco would
Hi :)
I think that having them on the wiki makes it clearer and avoids scaring people
with redirects. The wiki site just got spammed on a few main pages today so i
think it helps to avoid being scary. Also it means we have the originals
safely
out of reach?
I'm not sure if those are the r
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 11:33 +0300, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi Jean,
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> > In preparation, we should archive the files for v3.3.x so we don't
> > overwrite them with the updated files. Translators may wish to have
> > access to these files,
Hi :)
I don't know about using meta names. Cutting names to things like
GS34-ChapterTitleinCamelCase.odt(/pdf) makes a lot of sense to me. If
meta-tags
would be clearer then that sounds good.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Jean Hollis Weber
To: documentation@gl
Hi :)
Thanks, i hadn't got around to letting people know yet. Fixing it was
obviously
the first thing to do and i got distracted after doing that.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Nino Novak
To: webs...@global.libreoffice.org; documentation@global.libreoffice.o
Am Dienstag, 2. August 2011, um 11:41:36 schrieb David Nelson:
> Hi Jean,
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Jean Hollis Weber
wrote:
> > AFAIK, unless the filenames are different between the 3.3.x and
> > 3.4.x versions of a chapter, they cannot both be stored on the
> > wiki. Whatever is the
see
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Contributions/Pepe
@Tom:
in such cases it's good to inform the admins (cc to website or admins
list)
Nino
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On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 12:41 +0300, David Nelson wrote:
> Hi Jean,
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Jean Hollis Weber
> wrote:
> > AFAIK, unless the filenames are different between the 3.3.x and 3.4.x
> > versions of a chapter, they cannot both be stored on the wiki. Whatever
> > is the lates
Am Dienstag, 2. August 2011, um 11:14:22 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber:
> David,
> I'll respond to the rest of your note later, but for now I want to
>
> address just one item:
> > > We can then copy those files into the Drafts spaces, update them,
> > > and save them under different names -- to avoid
Am Dienstag, 2. August 2011, um 01:12:42 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber:
> "align=top" or similar,
it's valign=top, I just added it. Looks a bit better now :)
Nino
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Hi Jean,
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> AFAIK, unless the filenames are different between the 3.3.x and 3.4.x
> versions of a chapter, they cannot both be stored on the wiki. Whatever
> is the latest upload will overwrite the other.
Ah... yes... I'd overlooked that.
David,
I'll respond to the rest of your note later, but for now I want to
address just one item:
> > We can then copy those files into the Drafts spaces, update them, and
> > save them under different names -- to avoid confusion and to enable us
> > to put them on wiki along with the 3.3.x files.
Hi Jean,
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> In preparation, we should archive the files for v3.3.x so we don't
> overwrite them with the updated files. Translators may wish to have
> access to these files, without them becoming a moving target.
>
> David, how do you think
Hi Jean,
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> (Others are welcome to jump in too, either with ideas or with offers to
> write something.)
>
> David, here are some of the topics I've identified as needed to
> supplement our user guides. I've added them to the wiki page if the
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Sigrid Carrera
wrote:
> If you're logged in in the wiki, you can see a line, that contains the words:
> "view", "edit" and "view history". If you click on "view history" you can e.
> g. compare the current status with an earlier one. If you then click on "go
Hi John,
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 06:15:13 +0100
"John Cleland" wrote:
> Hi
>
> Don’t know how to fix, otherwise would have fixed myself.
>
> Someone has removed the development page of the wiki
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development
>
> and replaced it with advertising.
If you're lo
Hi :)
"The 3.3.3 is the stable version with longer term support." This was
originally
billed as "one year's support". The next release is due to be the 3.3.4 on Aug
17th
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
I think we need to actively maintain 2 sets of documentation, one for each
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