Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-29 Thread Giles Coochey
On 23/08/2012 21:49, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 23.8.2012, at 23.26, Warren Baker wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 14.8.2012, at 11.18, Timo Sirainen wrote: v2.2 has this now: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.2/rev/8d7f9e2d726c Is there a reason why 172.16.0.0/12

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 24.8.2012, at 14.18, Matthew Powell wrote: > On 2012-08-24, at 7.01, Jerry wrote: > >> I would personally recommend supporting it. If history teaches us >> anything, it is that sooner or later, and usually sooner, someone will >> require that block. Being prepared for it in advance would seem

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.08.2012 13:18, schrieb Matthew Powell: > On 2012-08-24, at 7.01, Jerry wrote: > >> I would personally recommend supporting it. If history teaches us >> anything, it is that sooner or later, and usually sooner, someone will >> require that block. Being prepared for it in advance would seem

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-24 Thread Matthew Powell
On 2012-08-24, at 7.01, Jerry wrote: > I would personally recommend supporting it. If history teaches us > anything, it is that sooner or later, and usually sooner, someone will > require that block. Being prepared for it in advance would seem like > the prudent thing to do. I wonder whether it

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-24 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:10:42 +0200 Warren Baker articulated: > Yeah as others have mentioned - also not sure whether it is worth the > effort to support IPv6's 'private' network (fc00::/7)? > I havent seen anyone making use of this for their v6 enabled sites but > others may have input here. I wo

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-24 Thread Warren Baker
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> >> Is there a reason why 172.16.0.0/12 was left out of the change ^^ ? > > Is it actually used? :) I've used 192.168 in my home network and all > corporate networks I've seen have been 10/8. But yeah, I guess since there > aren't more th

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-23 Thread Luigi Rosa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timo Sirainen said the following on 23/08/12 22:49: >> Is there a reason why 172.16.0.0/12 was left out of the change ^^ ? > Is it actually used? :) YES! I have a big customer (400 PCs) with 172.16.0.0/16 internal network and a subnet of 192.168.0.0

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-23 Thread Daryl Richards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-08-23 4:49 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 23.8.2012, at 23.26, Warren Baker wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: >>> On 14.8.2012, at 11.18, Timo Sirainen wrote: >>> >>> v2.2 has this now: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovec

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-23 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 23.8.2012, at 23.26, Warren Baker wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> On 14.8.2012, at 11.18, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> >> v2.2 has this now: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.2/rev/8d7f9e2d726c > > Is there a reason why 172.16.0.0/12 was left out of the change ^^ ?

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-23 Thread Warren Baker
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 14.8.2012, at 11.18, Timo Sirainen wrote: > > v2.2 has this now: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.2/rev/8d7f9e2d726c Is there a reason why 172.16.0.0/12 was left out of the change ^^ ? -- .warren

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-23 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 14.8.2012, at 11.18, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> As Timo says, Dovecot tries to be clever and coalesce packets from checking >> multiple folders, but from memory there are limitations on this if you have >> multiple *accounts*? I think the hash is per email address and per IP ? > > Yes, doesn't

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-14 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Yes, doesn't help with multiple accounts, because the hashed username is > different (no IP). I guess this could be changed to be per IP just as well. I > think I wondered about which one to use previously but didn't see any point > in cho

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-14 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 14.8.2012, at 11.04, Ed W wrote: > - Then there is tcp keepalive. Does Dovecot enable these? (Sorry, I should > look in the code...). Yes. > However, applications which enable it (eg optional in SSH) will trigger a > default (I think) 75 second network packet It's something like 2 hours

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-14 Thread Ed W
On 10/08/2012 10:25, Timo Sirainen wrote: how does help me "save battery" if i have a folder-structure maintained by sieve if i do not get my new mails? If you open 10 connections to IMAP server and will IDLE on them - your phone will wake up to reply for ping in every of that 10 connections. I

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 16:57, Reindl Harald пишет: surely IT IS an argument on a non-iPhone you can chosse what is important your agrumentation is even one argument more against iPhone If we now talking about android vs iPhone now... Imagine Android default email client. It have no many features, that iPho

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.08.2012 11:21, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: >> and that is why K9 on android let you select which folders >> are relevant for you on the mobile and which should be >> completly ignored and display the selected in "common inbox" > This is not an argument. You can have hundred of folders sorte

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 16:25, Timo Sirainen пишет: how does help me "save battery" if i have a folder-structure maintained by sieve if i do not get my new mails? If you open 10 connections to IMAP server and will IDLE on them - your phone will wake up to reply for ping in every of that 10 connections. Imag

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Michael Stilkerich
Hi, On 10-Aug-12 4:48, Timo Sirainen wrote: Related question that came to my mind: Does anyone know if XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE feature can be implemented by any server, or does it require cooperation between the server and the mobile network operator? I'm guessing the latter.. the Apple push serv

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 10.8.2012, at 12.21, Sergey S. Kovalev wrote: >>> I think that battery life is the reason, why this feature is not implemented >>> in iPhone. It will use only one IMAP connection >> so it is not "it's IMAP limitation" > As I told - IMAP limitation is to control only one folder. Assuming NOTIFY

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 15:59, Reindl Harald пишет: Am 10.08.2012 10:46, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: 10.08.2012 15:16, Reindl Harald пишет: i have a Android with K9, a lot of folders where messages are stored by sieve-scirpts and on my phone i can actively select which folders should be used for push Sure,

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.08.2012 10:46, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: > 10.08.2012 15:16, Reindl Harald пишет: >> i have a Android with K9, a lot of folders where messages are stored >> by sieve-scirpts and on my phone i can actively select which folders >> should be used for push >> > Sure, it can do it in two ways: op

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 15:16, Reindl Harald пишет: Am 10.08.2012 09:08, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: iPhone will not notify for new mail in any folder, except INBOX - it's IMAP limitation. IMAP IDLE monitor only one selected folder. If you need notifying of new mail in copule of mail folders you shold look

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.08.2012 09:08, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: > iPhone will not notify for new mail in any folder, except INBOX - it's IMAP > limitation. > IMAP IDLE monitor only one selected folder. > If you need notifying of new mail in copule of mail folders you shold look > for ActiveSync realization. >

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 10.8.2012, at 9.31, Robin wrote: > On 8/9/2012 11:26 PM, Luigi Rosa wrote: >> I used K-9 client on Android for one year with push, but I had to remove >> it and go back to integrated email client because it drained the battery. > > It sounds like "push" was really implemented as a poll. Dovec

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 10.08.2012 09:08, schrieb Sergey S. Kovalev: > On small mailboxes it's z-push and tine20 for example - they can use > IMAP server as backend. z-push works nice here with android, also the new horde beta has now calender, abook, notes, mail sync -- Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-10 Thread Sergey S. Kovalev
10.08.2012 09:44, dove...@noboost.org пишет: Hi All, Probably a very common question now days. I'd like to configure our iPhones at work to go directly to my dovecot server (currently dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64). Using the IMAP IDLE (push email) protocol. Has anyone successfully deployed th

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-09 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 10.08.2012 08:26, schrieb Luigi Rosa: > dove...@noboost.org said the following on 10/08/2012 04:44: > >> Probably a very common question now days. >> I'd like to configure our iPhones at work to go directly to my dovecot >> server (currently dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64). Using the IMAP IDLE

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-09 Thread Robin
On 8/9/2012 11:26 PM, Luigi Rosa wrote: I used K-9 client on Android for one year with push, but I had to remove it and go back to integrated email client because it drained the battery. It sounds like "push" was really implemented as a poll. =R=

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-09 Thread Luigi Rosa
dove...@noboost.org said the following on 10/08/2012 04:44: Probably a very common question now days. I'd like to configure our iPhones at work to go directly to my dovecot server (currently dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64). Using the IMAP IDLE (push email) protocol. I used K-9 client on Androi

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-09 Thread Timo Sirainen
Related question that came to my mind: Does anyone know if XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE feature can be implemented by any server, or does it require cooperation between the server and the mobile network operator? I'm guessing the latter..

[Dovecot] IMAP IDLE - iPhone?

2012-08-09 Thread dovecot
Hi All, Probably a very common question now days. I'd like to configure our iPhones at work to go directly to my dovecot server (currently dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64). Using the IMAP IDLE (push email) protocol. Has anyone successfully deployed this? If yes, did you have to use an app from the