RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-06 Thread Terry Hamilton
Of ron Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Terry Hamilton wrote: Terry Hamilton [EMAIL

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread lcomden
. Jim/NW5F From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jim, WOW, that's terrific and a direction setting trend, I hope

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Terry Hamilton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ron Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Don
Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- i dont see where this is any different from other states prb laws or where it over-rides a hoa or other private covenant. James B Davis wrote: Everyone,

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Kc9cdt
Jim, Just call ARRL's main number and ask who to talk to about it It would be very helpful to know to whole story on how this all came about... it may be something we can take to each state Gov. OR may be congess? 73, Lee ** Get a sneak peek of the

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Terry Hamilton
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James B Davis Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Lee, I don't know if ARRL knows about it. I would think that they would be heads up on this sort of thing. I don't know who to tell

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
05, 2007 6:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jim, Don't you expect court challenges to this??? The young grads will be all over this one. We're looking at a more modest approach here in PA. Hope to get a bill thru both houses soon. 30 years ago I just put

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Donley
: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jim, Just call ARRL's main number and ask who to talk to about it It would be very helpful to know to whole story on how this all came about... it may be something we can take to each state Gov. OR may be congess? 73, Lee

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
/NW5F From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Hamilton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jim: One of those nice 12 element log periodics ought to look nice on top of your tower

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
Lee, Check this out. http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/05/23/103/?nc=1 Jim/NW5F From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
Lee, it was all done by HAMS. Jim/NW5F From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Dick, Yep we got PRB-1 but looks like OK has a new law

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
. Was discharged in Spokane at Geiger AFB on New Year's day 1957. Jim/NW5F -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Hamilton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Terry

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread ron
ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Terry Hamilton wrote: Terry Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Kc9cdt
Jim, Where do I find the details of the bill that say it overrides HOA? Lee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jim, Where do I find the details of the bill that say it overrides HOA? Lee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Donley
with 'municipal' ordinances only and makes no mention of HOA's and CCR's. Dick KC9UB - Original Message - From: James B Davis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Lee, I guess the best thing would

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Don
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jim, Where do I find the details of the bill that say it overrides HOA? Lee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Kc9cdt
Jim, Some of us looked at this bill... don't see anything that would effect HOA's??? What are we missing? 73, Lee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Donley
. Dick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jim, Some of us looked at this bill... don't see anything that would effect HOA's??? What are we

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread k9sqg
... -Original Message- From: Donley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:17 pm Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma What you are missing is the reference to 47 C.F.R., Section 97.15(b) which is the FCC rule. It specifically mentions that HOA's and CCR's

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Kc9cdt
So, That means that the SB 426 is not anything special and does NOT give hams the right to put up antennas in HOA's that forbid it? So, Jim you are still in antenna trouble??? 73, Lee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread W4AWM
Hi All, There is something built into the fine print of most HOAs called a Special Assessment Fee. It can be brought into effect when the HOA suddenly needs additional funds that the treasury will not cover. If they get enough votes for the assessment, everyone in the association has to put

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Dan Ringer
Dan Ringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Ok, guys. The Oklahoma bill has nothing to do with homeowners associations (HOA's). It simply says that municipalities have to obey federal regulations

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Jack Wilson
be the only thing that is keeping them alive. Have you hugged your Drake, tonight? Jack K1hw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Ringer Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
been through a lot in my life and these are small people with visions of grandeur. Jim/NW5F -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Kc9cdt
A Baby, I hug my Drake every night and my Collins too! (And yes I already have a woman!) 73 Lee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
Of Jack Wilson Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jack Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Ugg, Maybe it's not too different

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Mr Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW
My HERO ! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma A Baby, I hug my Drake every night and my Collins too! (And yes I already have a woman!) 73

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Peter Bent
I find all this shocking!! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mr Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma My HERO ! - Original Message - From

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Steve Berg
Steve Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Each time I buy a house, I make sure there are no covenants or other antenna restrictions encumbering it. Years ago I rented a condo where there were no

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread James B Davis
in Oklahoma I find all this shocking!! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mr Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma My HERO ! - Original Message

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Don
they try... -Original Message- From: Donley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:17 pm Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma What you are missing is the reference to 47 C.F.R., Section 97.15(b) which is the FCC rule. It specifically mentions

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Thom LaCosta
Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Don wrote: almost. but the fcc specifically states that they do NOT override private agreemants such as found with an hoa's

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Hunter Ellington
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Don wrote: almost. but the fcc specifically states that they do

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Shorney
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:18:12 -0600, Hunter Ellington wrote: I declare this thread terminated. The horse has been beaten into submission. Gotta go, the HOA

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread Thom LaCosta
Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, James B Davis wrote: Everyone, Several weeks ago the Oklahoma State Government passed a new bill (SB-426) that states that Hams

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread ron
ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- James B Davis wrote: Everyone, Several weeks ago the Oklahoma State Government passed a new bill (SB-426) that states that Hams can put up antennas and

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread Jack Wilson
a mistake by going to BajaOklahoma. Jack K1HW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ron Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 6:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread Don Cunningham
Don Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- You SURE did, Jack, hi hi. 73, from North of the border, Don, WB5HAK --

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread James B Davis
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jack Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- By Golly, Do

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread James B Davis
] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- James B Davis wrote: Everyone, Several weeks ago the Oklahoma State Government passed a new bill (SB-426

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread ron
ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- James B Davis wrote: Ron, Not running for Prez that I know of. The reps from Oklahoma wanted the Ham votes and they knew how to get them. These smart A _ _

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread Kc9cdt
Jim, WOW, that's terrific and a direction setting trend, I hope Wish Indiana would do that.. Does ARRL know about this? 73, Lee, KC9CDT ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread Kc9cdt
Me too! Let's ALL DO IT... PLEASE! They DO work for us... Lee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

RE: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma

2007-09-04 Thread James B Davis
, September 04, 2007 9:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] New bill in Oklahoma Jim, WOW, that's terrific and a direction setting trend, I hope Wish Indiana would do that.. Does ARRL know about this? 73, Lee, KC9CDT ** Get a sneak peek