Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Jacek Popławski
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:54:59PM -0500, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > > I find it somehow ironic that the best way to find out who owns/enforces > > the patent is to ignore them, and violate the patent. > > If you're not worried about a potential lawsuit, go for it. No one's > stopping you. Is it

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Russ Dill wrote: > > > As for talking to S3, the contact I had was apparently a dead end. With all > > the mergers/spin-offs/acquisitions that S3 has gone through in recent years > > (Sonic Blue, Via, Diamond, ATI) it's not clear who might even own the patents > > anymor

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Russ Dill
> As for talking to S3, the contact I had was apparently a dead end. With all > the mergers/spin-offs/acquisitions that S3 has gone through in recent years > (Sonic Blue, Via, Diamond, ATI) it's not clear who might even own the patents > anymore. > I find it somehow ironic that the best way

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon PCI patch

2002-12-20 Thread C. Brewer
Thank you for your prompt replies. I have tried the latest trunk w/unpatched radeon_state.c, so I guess that fix is no longer required. I seem to recall something about the ring buffer having redundant checks, which is why I've always kept it patched, but currently works unpatched. I guess if I

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-20 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 19:48 schrieb magenta: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 12:47:34PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote: > > >> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however. Every ~40 > > >> frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > > > > > > Like these ones ? >

[Dri-devel] Re: Dri-devel digest, Vol 1 #1963 - 7 msgs

2002-12-20 Thread Alan Swanson
On Friday 20th Dec, Dieter Nutzel wrote; > > >What about just implementing it as a patch hosted outside the U.S.? > > >Leave the choice up to the users just like with decss. > > > > Bettr still. A loadable part of Mesa/ drivers. Have a simple default > > module that does nothing/ returns an error

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 19:58 schrieb magenta: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:29:35PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote: > > Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 14:38 schrieb Alexander Stohr: > > > > [-] > > > > > And thats why all the world on the stock marked emphasizes on their > > > patents protfolio, i

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Marcus Metzler
magenta writes: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:29:35PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote: > > Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 14:38 schrieb Alexander Stohr: > > > > [-] > > > > > And thats why all the world on the stock marked emphasizes on their > > > patents protfolio, its money and power that thos

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-20 Thread magenta
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 12:47:34PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote: > >> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however. Every ~40 > >> frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > > > Like these ones ? > > > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread magenta
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:29:35PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote: > Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 14:38 schrieb Alexander Stohr: > > [-] > > > And thats why all the world on the stock marked emphasizes on their > > patents protfolio, its money and power that those patenst sometimes > > do represent.

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Nicholas Leippe
On Thursday 19 December 2002 11:39 pm, you wrote: > Couldn't this be a "general" API to get missing stuff (e.g. ATI's "Smooth > Vision", "HyperZ" etc.) into the DRI? Something like to get (binary) addon > modules into the tree. > > What do you think? Probably a very good idea--then vendors coul

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Dieter [iso-8859-1] Nützel wrote: > Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 14:38 schrieb Alexander Stohr: > > [-] > > > And thats why all the world on the stock marked emphasizes on their > > patents protfolio, its money and power that those patenst sometimes > > do represent. Of co

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 14:38 schrieb Alexander Stohr: [-] > And thats why all the world on the stock marked emphasizes on their > patents protfolio, its money and power that those patenst sometimes > do represent. Of course there is much vapourware, but such key > technologies like S3TC th

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon PCI patch

2002-12-20 Thread Jens Owen
C. Brewer wrote: I would like to beg for the inclusion of #define PCIGART_ENABLED in radeon_dri.c, radeon_cp.c and the applied ring buffer tweak to the XFree86 CVS. The pci changes shouldnt affect any other system and do allow rather stable 3D accelerated environment, with a properly configured XF

RE: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-20 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues > >> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however.  > Every ~40 > >> frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > > > Like these ones ? > > > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png >

RE: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-20 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Dri-devel] S3TC sorry, you are so false in several important points that i have to reply to you in public via the list. andy ross wrote: > magenta wrote: >  > But they're not transferring the license to others, they're just >  > providing a reference implementation.  nVidia thems

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon PCI patch

2002-12-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2002-12-20 at 06:51, C. Brewer wrote: > I would like to beg for the inclusion of #define PCIGART_ENABLED in > radeon_dri.c, radeon_cp.c and the applied ring buffer tweak to the > XFree86 CVS. The pci changes shouldnt affect any other system and do > allow rather stable 3D accelerated en

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
>> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however. Every ~40 >> frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > Like these ones ? > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png Did you know that 'Solace' - recently mentioned on this list - a

Re: [Dri-devel] Strange slowdown with DRI drivers after reboot onRadeon VE

2002-12-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2002-12-20 at 11:00, Nick Kurshev wrote: > > On 19 Dec 2002 03:03:09 +0100 you wrote: > > > On Son, 2002-12-15 at 09:25, Nick Kurshev wrote: > > > > > > It seems that DRI-CVS doesn't configure some registers or > > > something similar. Means that before reboot - DRI works with > > > har

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2002-12-20 Thread Lue Eitner
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Re: [Dri-devel] Strange slowdown with DRI drivers after reboot on Radeon VE

2002-12-20 Thread Nick Kurshev
Hello, Michel! On 19 Dec 2002 03:03:09 +0100 you wrote: > On Son, 2002-12-15 at 09:25, Nick Kurshev wrote: > > > > I've found out the strange things in DRI-CVS! > > My regular upgrade of Xfree86 and DRI looks like this: > > 1. I do checkout of both Xfree86-CVS and DRI-CVS > > 2. After installin