On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Andrew Morton
a...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:05:59 +0100
Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
Regressions are not limited to 'same config' kernels, last i checked. If that
has changed (or if i'm misunderstanding it) then it would be nice to
If it now does not boot up if all its sub-options are enabled, even of some
of those sub-options are new, does that count as a driver regression? Sure it
does to me ...
But it doesn't to anyone else under any reasonable meaning of the word
regression.
The config option states
Choose this
* Dave Airlie airl...@linux.ie wrote:
If it now does not boot up if all its sub-options are enabled, even of some
of those sub-options are new, does that count as a driver regression? Sure
it
does to me ...
But it doesn't to anyone else under any reasonable meaning of the word
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
* Dave Airlie airl...@linux.ie wrote:
If it now does not boot up if all its sub-options are enabled, even of some
of those sub-options are new, does that count as a driver regression? Sure
it
does to me ...
But it
* Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
* Dave Airlie airl...@linux.ie wrote:
If it now does not boot up if all its sub-options are enabled, even of
some
of those sub-options are new, does that count as a driver
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:17:05AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
btw., i just found another bug activated via this same commit, a boot
hang after DRM init:
The commit in question didn't cause the hang, so reverting it isn't the
appropriate
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Well, once i applied the revert i got no more hangs or crashes today, in lots
of bootups. This is fully repeatable - if i re-apply that commit with the
config i sent the hang happens again.
But that's just because when it was in staging, you'd never
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:17:05AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
btw., i just found another bug activated via this same commit, a boot hang
after DRM init:
The commit in question didn't cause the hang, so reverting it isn't the
appropriate fix.
--
Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org
* Linus Torvalds torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Well, once i applied the revert i got no more hangs or crashes today, in
lots of bootups. This is fully repeatable - if i re-apply that commit
with the config i sent the hang happens again.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 06:54:45PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
But you could claim that it's not a regression because 1) technically the
code got introduced in drivers/staging/, and
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 06:08:26PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Well, once i applied the revert i got no more hangs or crashes today, in lots
of bootups. This is fully repeatable - if i re-apply that commit with the
config i sent the hang happens again.
If you leave the commit applied, use
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:12:18PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
The reason the option was in staging (as has been mentioned before) was
because the ABI wasn't felt to be stable enough. Upstream is now willing to
commit to that stability, so now
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:12:18PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
The reason the option was in staging (as has been mentioned before) was
because the ABI wasn't felt to be stable enough. Upstream is
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Do you see my argument why any user who is hit by this would categorize
this as a kernel regression in an existing driver?
No. If a user changes configuration and gets a hang,
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Alex Deucher wrote:
And if it crashes, he'll report a bug and we'll fix it.
Ok, you have a bug-report. See earlier in the thread:
btw., i just found another bug activated via this same commit, a boot hang
after DRM init:
[9.858352] [drm] Connector 1:
[
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:19:35PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Do you see my argument why any user who is hit by this would categorize
this as a kernel regression in an existing
* Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
* Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Linus Torvalds
torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Alex Deucher wrote:
And if it crashes, he'll report a bug and we'll fix it.
Ok, you have a bug-report. See earlier in the thread:
btw., i just found another bug activated via this same
* Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:32:32 +0100
Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
Nobody has reacted to my related boot hang bugreport yet - and it's
detailed and fully reproducible (so i can test any proposed fixes as
well in short order). I.e. my limited
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:32:32 +0100
Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
Nobody has reacted to my related boot hang bugreport yet - and it's
detailed and fully reproducible (so i can test any proposed fixes as
well in short order). I.e. my limited testing has triggered two
separate bugs in the same
* Jerome Glisse gli...@freedesktop.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:19:35PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Do you see my argument why any user who is hit by this would
* Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote:
[...]
That action might hang or crash his kernel, and if that user then
reports:
Hey, -rc7 just hung on me after enabling this new .config option
it offered for the radeon driver i am using, please add this to the
list of
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:22:54PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Hey, -rc7 just hung on me after enabling this new .config option it
offered for the radeon driver i am using, please add this to the list
of
regressions.
If the
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:05:59 +0100
Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:22:54PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Hey, -rc7 just hung on me after enabling this new .config option it
offered for the radeon driver i
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Andrew Morton a...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:05:59 +0100
Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:22:54PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Hey, -rc7 just hung on me
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:22:54PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Hey, -rc7 just hung on me after enabling this new .config option it
offered for the radeon driver i am using, please add this to the list of
regressions.
If the same configuration options hang on both an old kernel and
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:05:59PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Regressions are not limited to 'same config' kernels, last i checked. If that
has changed (or if i'm misunderstanding it) then it would be nice to hear a
clarification about that from Linus.
If an option has *never* worked on a
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:32:32 +0100
Ingo Molnar mi...@elte.hu wrote:
Nobody has reacted to my related boot hang bugreport yet - and it's
detailed and fully reproducible (so i can test any proposed fixes as
* Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:05:59PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Regressions are not limited to 'same config' kernels, last i checked. If
that
has changed (or if i'm misunderstanding it) then it would be nice to hear a
clarification about
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