As long as D-Star stays off 146.52 no one cares where they rub people the
wrong way here is to go on 52 and disrupt the people who are analog users. I
rarely use repeaters so if they all went D-Star i would not care.
Use 145.67 fill it up nation wide make it work as the D-Star frequency
Here you go . 145.670 mhz
--- On Thu, 7/1/10, nhorv wrote:
From: nhorv
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Proposal for a DStar experiment.
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 11:52 AM
Would that be the same frequency Nationwide?? ?
Nick, KJ4BSM
So. Car
The way we see it in Tampa bay is Our Gulf of Mexico has all the oil and the
reason no one can measure it is the dip-sticks are in Washington
--- On Sat, 6/5/10, bosshardss wrote:
From: bosshardss
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: 145.67 D-STAR simplex (was: DStar Nets)
To: dstar_digital@yahoogrou
. Mitchell
KD4EFM / WQFK-894
Fla. D-Star Tech Support Group
http://www.florida- dstar.info
Polk ARES A.E.C.
http://www.polkemco mm.org
BB8330 PIN: 30965B58
From: dstar_digital@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:dstar_ digi...@yahoogro ups.com]
On Behalf Of bruce mallon
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010
, 2010, 12:45 PM
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 08:13:51AM -0700, bruce mallon wrote:
> PROTECTED ? this is in a experimental band ?
145.67 is experimental according to who, exactly?
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC at K6ZC port B http://www.conmicro.com
http://www.k6zc.org http://www.tronguy.net
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PROTECTED ? this is in a experimental band ?
In the Cleveland, Ohio area, 145.665 is used by the NASA ARC for rebroadcasting
the shuttle and NASA TV. It is a "protected" frequency. That eliminates
145.67 for us.
W8KRF
Ted Wrobel wrote:
Seems like the freq of choice up here in
thats my point is is a good choice
--- On Fri, 6/4/10, Ted Wrobel wrote:
From: Ted Wrobel
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: 145.67 D-STAR simplex (was: DStar Nets)
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 10:39 AM
Seems like the freq of choice up here in Rhode Isl
precedence.
73 gerry n5jxs
bruce mallon wrote:
>
> Now if the ARRL is saying this why is there any dispute on what the
> simplex frequencies for ANALOG FM are ? Why is it so hard to set up
> 145.67 for D-Star ? Why do some people feel they need to remake the
> bandplan at the expense of
BULL ...
We are right now defending 146.52 from intruders DIGITAL needs to go find it's
own playground the idea you can mix analog and digital is bunk ..
--- On Fri, 6/4/10, Rusty Hemenway wrote:
From: Rusty Hemenway
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 145.67 D-STAR simplex (was: DStar Nets)
Now if the ARRL is saying this why is there any dispute on what the simplex
frequencies for ANALOG FM are ? Why is it so hard to set up 145.67 for D-Star ?
Why do some people feel they need to remake the bandplan at the expense of all
others ? A good operator on D-Star should be able to use
There is no problem finding analog simplex on 146.52 .
--- On Fri, 6/4/10, Gary Pearce KN4AQ wrote:
From: Gary Pearce KN4AQ
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 145.67 D-STAR simplex (was: DStar Nets)
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 1:37 AM
Now since 145.67 is the d-star simplex frequency who is using it for simplex
nets ?
--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Bob N3PUG wrote:
away,
frustrated that their “negative points” just don’t exist)
Ed WA4YIH
From: dstar_digital@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:dstar_ digi...@yahoogro ups.com]
On Behalf Of bruce mallon
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 6:44 AM
To: dstar_digital@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Honest
I only had 1 or 2 of the classic negative hams.
Ok what is a " classic negative hams. " do you mean people who have no intrest
or don't beleve the hype ?.
There are number of manufacturers making
equipment for D-STAR. We can make a non D-STAR radio a D-STAR radio, and we
now have approved no
wonderful effect on communications. But
there also have been a few that show in some circumstances, the coverage can be
less. That’s why I just tell people that it’s about the same.
Ed WA4YIH
From: dstar_digital@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:dstar_ digi...@yahoogro ups.com]
On Behalf Of bruce m
BTW
Thank you for serving this country
Bruce
US Army 1968-1970
Commo repair state side.
I work for the SO and we are ANALOG because MOTOROLA digital p25 does not have
as much range. all digital buys us is the ability to transmit data with voice.
You are the first person who stated different. The fact it buys us nothing is
why we are still analog both trunking and uhf.
--- On S
CARL .
Does he even know what a LID is ?
I think you do .
It is a POOR ( CW ) operator Yes I know it is also used for phone too...
So unless he is on the air and your hearing him how can one call another a lid ?
Bruce
--- On Sat, 5/8/10, Carl W8KRF wrote:
That is totally unca
How many contacts without Internet or REPEATERS do you have on D-star at 200
miles or more ? How many states have you worked ? Moving forward is a relative
term
We have a motto .
Put up a antenna crank up the power and join us on ANALOG 146.52 SIMPLEX
YOUR COMMENT ...
O
" My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more range than
analog FM "
Not the norm . ANALOG has more range
There is ZERO chance they will comply we have given up on 400 - 500 even the
d-star guys don't go there. John you a smart guy . they will not move
d-star / analog means nothing to them only echo-link .
THIS ..
WHILE 145.500 - 145.800 sits empty ...
How stupid now they will have to run off all the echo-link stations FIRST
LOTS OF LUCK . they are spreading like a cancer even common net frequencies
here they TONE there receivers and transmit over local nets Yep wait until they
put those repeaters on ... 146.400-500 is a mess of UN co
NO REPEATER COUNCIL WILL GIVE THE STANDARD SIMPLEX PAIRS TO D-STAR OR ANY OTHER
REPEATERS !
I have been on 2 FM since 1969 and NEVER has the FRC even given that thought.
There is no reason to put more repeaters on the air HERE in Tampa there is
little to no usage of the ones That are already
, though. At
first glance this might be a great direction for dstar in the US. steve
bruce mallon wrote:
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--
Ham Radio Spoken Here !!!
EM11ma - South Mountain, Texas
"I was hoping Alinco would offer a DSTAR add on board to make their radio
compatible."
Yes I AGREE they should we have a active 223 mhz group here in Tampa it would
encourage use of a very good band with little activity.
BTW I work for the sheriff office here but we use UHF ANALOG non trunkin
t;off the shelf" manufacturer it
will never grow.
Things change over time and people need to be adaptable.
On May 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, bruce mallon wrote:
i think on 223 mhz your idea would work
--- On Wed, 5/5/10, John Hays wrote:
From: John Hays
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIG
aters, and the home brew crowd can get there (Yahoo! gmsk_dv_node and
pcrepeatercontrolle r) but until you have an "off the shelf" manufacturer it
will never grow.
Things change over time and people need to be adaptable.
On May 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, bruce mallon wrote:
i t
kHz. band plan in the portion of the REPEATER
sub-band currently used for analog simplex would accommodate more than D-STAR.
P25/MotoTurbo/ NXDN/D-STAR all fit into those slots nicely.
On May 5, 2010, at 7:58 AM, bruce mallon wrote:
"Speaking personally, I believe D-Star i
/D-STAR all fit into those slots nicely.
On May 5, 2010, at 7:58 AM, bruce mallon wrote:
"Speaking personally, I believe D-Star is the future of amateur radio for the
niche that analog VHF/UHF-FM currently occupies, for a host of reasons.
( like being compatable with apco f
"Speaking personally, I believe D-Star is the future of amateur radio for the
niche that analog VHF/UHF-FM currently occupies, for a host of reasons.
( like being compatable with apco format ? )
10% of the radios sold on 144 mhz are D-star so all you need in Tampa is 2
repeater pairs so since there are at least 4 already 2 need to go back to
analog .
Makes as much sence as 10% of the users tying up all know simplex pairs . a
good way to make friends for your mode .
145.500 -
khz. spacing.
Again, what is the LOGIC of using limited repeater spectrum for simplex, when
there is, as you say mostly unused, simplex spectrum that could be used by
simplex operators.
bruce mallon wrote:
WHY DO WE NEED MORE REPEATERS ?
You have 300 khz waiting for D-Star and echo-link
"EchoLink? Sure. D-Star? Not repeaters. Repeaters can't operate there."
I don't remember saying anything about repeaters on 145.500 -145.800
Now IF D-Star started using 146.400 -146.600 for inputs and 147.400-147.600 for
outputs and simply sqashed all analog simplex how long before the FCC would
17 PM
What logic says that when you have limited spectrum for repeaters that you are
allocating some to simplex, when there is spectrum where repeaters are not
allowed and is being under used?
On May 4, 2010, at 4:58 PM, bruce mallon wrote:
NO the problem is we don't need Mor
NO the problem is we don't need More repeater pairs and we don't need
D-Star/echo-link on the 146.400 -146.600 or 147.400 - 147.600 pair already used
by analog stations.
D-Star and echo-link will fit nicely into 145.500 - 145.700 with no movement of
other stations.
Lets make use of THAT band
The ARRL has done nothing to help d-star ot analog FM This sounds like the same
thing that cost us the 220-222 mhz band all the fcc knew was the ARRL reppeater
directory had no listing for that band so UPS wound up with it ..
D-Star needs to have a spot of its own as does the ECHOLINK stati
Morning Tony
That was MY point keep d-star and digital OFF the standard simplex frequencies.
NOW we all know that can be a problem SO Why not get the ARRL to hold a
vote of WHICH frequencies are most used by FM ?
Likr here in Tampabay Florida ...
We use 146.52 and 147.550 but little is
ANY digital on simplex is going to start a cat fight
--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Gary Pearce KN4AQ wrote:
From: Gary Pearce KN4AQ
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Field Day Rules - 145.67 simplex
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010,
different, very different.
There are some major simplex nets on some of the other frequencies.
Ed WA4YIH
From: dstar_digital@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:dstar_ digi...@yahoogro ups.com]
On Behalf Of bruce mallon
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:27 PM
To: dstar_digital@ yahoogroups. com
S
or a range war, and everybody
> loses.
>
> Separate spectrum exists for simplex (while it is very had to come by for
> repeaters). Let's use it, and be good neighbors. We will have to be aware
> of packet or other digital activity in the 145.5-145.8 region, and dodge
> that w
NONE of them are on KNOWN FM SIMPLEX FREQUENCIES
In the southeast, we have specific digital simplex frequencies coordinated as
so by SERA. Please use them and not frequencies coordinated as packet.
FM digital simplex on 2m are:
146.420, 146.440, 146.460, 146.480, 147.420, 147.440, 14
STAY OFF KNOWN SIMPLEX FREQUENCIES ! It's that simple. Here in Florida we have
ECHO LINK stations popping up on KNOWN simplex net frequencies while UNUSED
frequencies sit unused by them
The idea you can place digital on simplex and the others use a tone squelch is
nonsense digital will sh
John ..
The problem is when we are told we are killing the hobby .
I for one want to see D-star work but for me it does nothing for MY needs and
would go unused ..
I was more than 40 years ago on 6 and 2 FM back when much of what we had was
tube ...
I STILL HAVE AND IT WORKS
A 35 watt amp on what? If you going from 4 watts to 35 you will see a lot less
drop out how ever at 2 meters once you get to the horizon your gone analog or
digital
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"Digital will never get off the ground"
Not a rational statement no more than digital will replace analog
BTW I have been licensed more that 40 years does that make me one of those old
thinking hams ..?
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Matt
AES ORLANDO has a repeater as does lakeland both are too far for me to hit .
--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Matt Roberts wrote:
From: Matt Roberts
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Blind D-STAR User
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 6:53 PM
I am a new member of the group,
Ben ...
WOW your ready Got to love the receiver in that FT-100 .. too bad it
cooks finals so be careful . BTW I live 3 miles from the gulf here in
Tambabay and in almost 40 years have seen a few hurricanes ...
--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Ben Ramler wrote:
From: Ben Ramler
Subject: Re:
No I missed that Our digital goro here at the jail calls d-star a dead issue
which i dissagree with .. What was that link ( ill send him a copy LOL )
--- On Thu, 7/9/09, k7ve wrote:
From: k7ve
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Digital vs. Analog both have a place.
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups
I AGREE ...
I run alinco on 220 mhz and if they had d-star they would own that market.
--- In dstar_digital@ yahoogroups. com, "k7ve" wrote:
4
> Alinco is probably the low hanging fruit.
I have HAM FM radios that are 40 years old and still work just fine 30 years
ago I was running a heathkit 2036 with the heath amp both built from kits
Unless some one shows the 99% of us who don't see a need to go digital / have
no need for internet gates ect a reason to expend time and mo
"Amateurs will eventually migrate to digital for VHF/UHF repeaters"
But WHAT digital . This is why I have not bought any digital radios YET
.
To knock "30 year old radios " is not in the best interest of this HOBBY and it
IS a HOBBY.
Many people still have and use radios that are 50
SADLY we will lose so someone can make a buck
--- On Mon, 4/13/09, John Hays wrote:
From: John Hays
Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] US Hams - FCC 70cm Proposal to Watch (NPRM - ET Docket
09-36)
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 1:34 PM
Via "WD6DQL":
FCC Pr
SOMEONE made the statement that the rules allow unlicensed people to use ham
bands ...
Sorry if my comment was attached to your reply. I'm not attacking anyone just
trying to understand where and when we would need a license under the " REVISED
" rules.
The problem here seems that some are loo
says that non hams may use ham radio
frequencies.
http://www.arrl. org/FandES/ field/regulation s/news/part97/
bruce mallon wrote:
>
> So does this meen that if your digital you can allow non hams
use of ham frequencies. ..
>
> From: k7ve
> > I don't know /
radio
frequencies.
http://www.arrl. org/FandES/ field/regulation s/news/part97/
bruce mallon wrote:
>
> So does this meen that if your digital you can allow non hams
use of ham frequencies. ..
>
> From: k7ve
> > I don't know / have not heard about the FCC
> > s
So does this meen that if your digital you can allow non hams use of ham
frequencies because you don't beleve the rules are up to your date ??
Kinda like rules only apply to those who beleve in them ??
You lost me
--- On Sun, 12/28/08, k7ve wrote:
From: k7ve
Subject: [DS
Morning !
I have passed along your comment to the small group of D-Star users that are
using 147.550 MHz.they were going to move there. they have a home .
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Has any thought being givin to simplex ?
�
Here in Tampabay we have FM�nets on 147.550 and what I am seeing is some
d-star users who don't seem to hear them tring to use that frequency at the
same time.
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If d-star has a simplex spot let me knowe and i'll pass it along.
[ED - In many areas
there is one east of tampa
Single point grounds here are everything in the repeater room ( from wiring to
coax to phone ) goes to one ground we do that to keep the differential voltage
that ground Resistance would produce to a minimum, That ground is a 20 foot
rod. and The water table here is about 8 foot ... so it i
Our antennas ( for all 3 machines ) are on 1.5 inch poles 20 foot above the
roof and grounded to a 20 foot ground pipe. It may not sound high but a single
storm can produce dozens of strikes on the jail and some Will find a ANTENNA.
I'm taking the SAFE road on this since HERE at a COUNTY JAIL
You need to be here GROUND ZERO we get so many hits there is only one way to
protect anything UNPLUG IT ...
Since I Martainn the UHF radio system at the jail we see lots of hits .
sometimes 2 A DAY and our system must run 24/7/365 and some damage EVEN with
the very good polyphasers. Wit
Tropo is a real problem here in Florida and tone encoding/decoding is not going
to solve it. The signal is still there interfering with any transmited signal.
Just lissen to 146.97 ( Largo ) when the band is open and you can hear at least
2 others under it squealing away. My machine ( back in th
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