Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-15 Thread John D. Hays
Chris Fowler wrote: We have US based D-Star reps. Talk to them and ask if ICOM Japan is stupid. Last year, I was in a meeting with the head of Icom's D-STAR development from Japan. I tried to explain to him how DD could be more effectively marketed in the US (a lower cost unit with an Eth

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-15 Thread Chris Fowler
On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 01:12 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: > Note how they added MORE features to the latest rig that didn't play > nicely with D-PLUS. Are they stupid? #1. They currently have a monopoly and know we'll buy even if D-Plus become incompatible in some way. #2. They believe their solution

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-14 Thread Will Wright
Nate, Good reply! this is all good stuff! A very good read Oh, what do you think about those who try to improve the hobby (D-Star) but look down on? Like the hams in Germany? Will Nate Duehr wrote: > > On 4/9/2010 8:48 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: > >> Nate, >> >> Please get your fact straights bef

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-10 Thread Woodrick, Ed
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:13 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing On 4/9/2010 8:48 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: Nate, Please get

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-10 Thread Gary Lindtner
Nate WY0X wrote: "Guess what... None of the public safety folks in the big cities care, or even know, what D-STAR is... "Oh, that's that Ham Radio thing."... if you're lucky. I hung out at the largest Fire/Medical dispatch center in the Denver Metro area last night. No one there had even heard

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-10 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/9/2010 8:48 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: Nate, Please get your fact straights before spreading FUD. FUD means "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt", none of which I am "spreading". D-PLUS was created before the DVDongle. D-PLUS is NOT REQUIRED for a D-STAR repeater, or one that is connected to th

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Tony Langdon
> >I don't think so, I fully agree with Ed, I have >seen many userĀ“s drop off dstar, due to callsign routing technique not >satisfying their desire to listen in on a qso first before joining in. Good point. Hams love listening. It's part and parcel of the hobby, whether people like it or not

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Woodrick, Ed
: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing > I can with good conscious, state that without DPLUS, DSTAR would probably > have died. Or at least be at significantly lower levels of penetration than > today. A LOT of people enjoy listening to REF001C and the nets. A lot of > gra

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Adrian
> > > > I can with good conscious, state that without DPLUS, DSTAR would > probably have died. Or at least be at significantly lower levels of > penetration than today. A LOT of people enjoy listening to REF001C and > the nets. A lot of grant money has been spent with the capability to > link re

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread john_ke5c
> D-PLUS was created before the DVDongle. D-PLUS is NOT REQUIRED for a D-STAR > repeater, or one that is connected to the Trust Server. Chronologically dplus appeared before the dongle, but conceptually? The dongle market certainly appears to drive dplus development since. > Again, DPLUS IS N

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Woodrick, Ed
ilto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:59 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing Over here, D-PLUS is virtually a requirement so a private company can sell and offer DV-Dongle... ga

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
At 03:59 PM 4/8/2010, Nate Duehr wrote: ... All the current Icom rigs reset the four callsign fields anytime you tune to a new memory channel. A small correction - they don't reset the MY CALL field - that one stays put until you change it. ...Callsign routing obviously is a fully-workable s

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread John D. Hays
interpreter...@gmail.com wrote: If they made the registration process uncomplicated by just typing in your name, call sign and password, instead of registering with a club, and putting in the necessary sp aces, asterisks and #'s, everything would be much simpler and less confusion for un non

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread interpretercat
Hello all!!! Okay, so I got some great info. To follow up, when I am using our local repeater, in the middle of a QSO, the repeater will vacillate between linkking and unlinking. I'm not controlling anything. It really gets my hackles up when it knocks me out of my QSO and my transmissions is c

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:59 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: >This is more a sign of really poor integration of the regular >features vs. the add-on features, than anything. If the two were >"aware" of each other in any way, a message could be sent back to >the user who is "barging" in saying the remote system is linked

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:54 PM, ki4umx wrote: > Hi Nick, > > I see several have answered the technical side of your question, so I'll > limit myself to why I WOULD NOT use source routing except in emergencies. > > With source routing, you have no idea what is going on at the target > repeater, an

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-07 Thread ki4umx
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "Nicholas" wrote: > > I may be asking a question that has already been answered. What is the > difference between Linking (UR: KJ4MMCCL) and Source Routing (UR: /KJ4OXTC)? > This is something I have yet to figure out. > > Thank you and 73s, > Nick KF4SE

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-07 Thread Nicholas
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Tony Langdon wrote: > > At 08:40 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: > >I may be asking a question that has already been answered. What is > >the difference between Linking (UR: KJ4MMCCL) and Source Routing > >(UR: /KJ4OXTC)? This is something I have yet to figure out. >

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-07 Thread Nicholas
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr wrote: > > On 4/7/2010 4:40 PM, Nicholas wrote: > > > > I may be asking a question that has already been answered. What is the > > difference between Linking (UR: KJ4MMCCL) and Source Routing (UR: > > /KJ4OXTC)? This is something I have yet to figu