Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread Nate Duehr
That is not what I read in previous discussions by folks who were actually doing protocol-level work, but if you insist that the headers are encapsulated inside the portion of the stream that's covered by FEC, I can't really refute it technically. What I can be sure of, is that the statement makes

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:20 AM 10/17/2009, you wrote: >That is not what I read in previous discussions by folks who were >actually doing protocol-level work, but if you insist that the >headers are encapsulated inside the portion of the stream that's >covered by FEC, I can't really refute it technically. My und

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread John Hays
My reading of the protocol specification is that the header has a checksum (2.1.1 (11) page 4 - http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/techchar/D-STAR.pdf) for error detection, but forward error correction (FEC) only applies to the "audio" portion of the AMBE payload (and performed by

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread Woodrick, Ed
lf Of Tony Langdon Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:09 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps At 07:20 AM 10/17/2009, you wrote: >That is not what I read in previous discussions by folks who were >actually doing protocol-level work, but if you insist t

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread Nate Duehr
in the Last Heard list. Ed WA4YIH From: dstar_digi...@yahoogroups. com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:09 PM To: dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.comsubject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps At 07:20 AM 10/17/2009, you wrote: >That is

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread Nate Duehr
Okay, interesting. Please review and note that I never said a receiving station gets a CORRUPTED callsign. The result is actually that the receiving station gets *no callsign* at all. Then the firmware in the controller or the software in the GW was programmed in such a way as to treat that missin

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread Woodrick, Ed
gital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:49 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps Okay, interesting. Please review and note that I never said a receiving station gets a CORRUPTED ca

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread Nate Duehr
On Oct 16, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: > The “ignoring the call if it can’t be decoded” IS the attempt to > assure that the protocol works. That allows subsequent transmissions > to follow the initial transmission. If this didn’t occur, then there > would be a lot more “dropped tr