Re: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread beamar
In a message dated 5/8/08 8:16:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The idea that digital and analog do not co-exist well is an outright > misstatement. > Well, the KJ4ACN system just had our first co-channel interference complaint, from an analog repeater trustee. It seems that there are some f

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread bruce mallon
Tropo is a real problem here in Florida and tone encoding/decoding is not going to solve it. The signal is still there interfering with any transmited signal. Just lissen to 146.97 ( Largo ) when the band is open and you can hear at least 2 others under it squealing away. My machine ( back in th

RE: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA2TH / WQFK-894
Robert, Buddy is NOT against this as you have mentioned... We have ham's 100 miles away, using an analog on the same frequency, and our D-Star repeater is walking over their analog output It has nothing to do with him accepting the new technology, he, like myself, are pushing it full speed ah

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread Nate Duehr
Robert wrote: > One thing analog systems really need to do, which in this day and age > there is no excuse not to, is use CTCSS or DCS on the receiver. This type of thing is the reason that Analog FM coordinations in our area REQUIRE that the system have a working CTCSS decoder. It doesn't hav

RE: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA2TH / WQFK-894
Roger that. Thanks Robert. Happy Hamming! Please TRIM your replies or set your email program not to include the original message in reply unless needed for clarity. ThanksYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.ya

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread n1tai
Oh this is too wonderful a thing to resist. Coordination, coordinatio, coordination. First off. Second: Turn the power down a notch on all the repeaters. Third, look closer at the footprints of the repeaters before turnng on the power switch. Ideally every repeater owner wants to cover as much o

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread Charles Scott
N1TAI: Yes, but when there's enhanced propagation there's nothing you can do about it. It makes no sense to coordinate out interfernce resulting from that. It makes sense to accept and take actions to mitigate the effects. Chuck - N8DNX On Thu, 8 May 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh t

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:16 AM 5/9/2008, you wrote: >--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > USERS still hear the rumble of data which is trash to them. > >This can be mitigated by "users" using tone squelch on their >individual radios, something that almost all m

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:40 AM 5/9/2008, you wrote: >I guess I rest my case here. > >1.) If the propagation/Tropo is that bad, no reasonable co-channel >spacing is going to solve the problem. Agreed. There have been cases of propagation on 2m right across the country here. >2.) As I noted, CTCSS and/or DCS will n

Re: [dstar_digital] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital Repeater Operation

2008-05-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:27 AM 5/9/2008, you wrote: >N1TAI: > Yes, but when there's enhanced propagation there's nothing you can do >about it. It makes no sense to coordinate out interfernce resulting from >that. It makes sense to accept and take actions to mitigate the effects. Quite frankly, 108 miles in relati