Personally I don't think we should include the 12 Powerbook in this
list.
What makes this list special is the fact that it's only for duo and
2400 owners and lovers. The 12 Powerbook basically isn't that
different from the 17 (a little, but not much), and if we include it,
we may as well
It's gone already.
Phil
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 04:11 PM, Philip Lord wrote:
I have a Yu-plan 2400 (english) keyboard that I would like to swap for
a standard english (apple) keyboard in good condition. I know some
people like these keyboards a lot but I'm a purist and would prefer
on 1/14/03 04:25, Dan K at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan K J(lusting for . . . well, actually not lusting for anything
on-topic (is Ashley Judd on-topic?)) /J
Oh, man, Ashley is a sooo beautiful off-topic...;-)
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From: Ralph Mawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003
I've almost talked myself into waiting, once again, for Rev 2...
Al/PB-12 - $1800
Applecare - $349 (This hurts, I just bought a new
ThinkPad and +2 Yrs was $132)
512MB Memory - $100
Airport Card - $100
MS Office - $200
Just curious, in view of all the problems that 5300's had and the
repair/trade -in programs offered as a result why hasn't Apple taken a
similar approach to 2400's? The GLOD symptom definitely is a very inherent
design defect and is as bad or worse than anything (other than flaming
batteries)
Dear Gurus,
The List Mom wrote: I'm considering transitioning the list into a
more general Mac Sub-compacts
list. I'm thinking that this will give us a concise focus while still
allowing us to talk about the new machines.
I hope you do. My next new machine will be one of the 320's
To those worried about the dichotomy between newer and older subcompacts...
We *already* have a dichotomy! To those of us with only 2x0 Duos, a lot of
the discussion on this list is of little more than academic interest. But
yet I still read some of it because there's occasionally useful
on 1/13/03 10:21 PM, Chris Thornburg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
7. Road Rocket card
with one of the latest list discussions which discusses using a patch
to use dual monitors. Hopefully this can be used with 12 G4
No patch needed for the 12 AlBook, as it already supports dual monitors.
-
Hi, ListMom here.
...trying to decide where we take the list.
Thoughts?
Eric Prentice
ListMom
Eric,
I can see no harm in trying this. Seems to me we can always ask you
kindly to consider separating the older machine topic off again if
the new list becomes unusable for those users.
Possibly
Buy one of the external batteries from ProVantage and you can then run
your 2400 for the better part of a day.
~ Larry
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 07:03 AM, Donald McCaig wrote:
Dear Gurus,
The List Mom wrote: I'm considering transitioning the list into a
more general Mac Sub-compacts
Larry Friedman on 1/14/03 2:42 AM wrote:
I wasn't able to get that to work when I was having trouble with a
System 7.6 partition on the 2400. I thought that was only to start from
an external drive.
~ Larry
Does this mean that restarting and then holding down
Cmd-Opt-Shift-Delete
On 1/13/03 Eric Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to decide where we take the list. With the new machines this
list will be less essential for many of us who are upgrading and will
eventually go the way of other great Mac lists.
I'm considering transitioning the list into a more
Will it work on regular HFS volumes or only on HFS+ ? (That's what I
love about this list, all this obsolete troubleshooting info that
I've forgotton over the course of time and upgrades)
~ Larry
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 10:04 AM, Mark A. Kippert wrote:
Larry Friedman on 1/14/03
on 1/14/03 10:17 AM, Big Bird at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it is intended to be a social discussion list, then it makes a
lot of sense to expand it to whatever computers the current members
own. If the list is intend to be for problem solving and technical
advice, then it seems to me that
I'm relatively new to this list so you're more than welcome to take a
who do you think you are stance ;-). What happens when someone say
can't we include the 15 and 17 Powerbooks because they are so similar
to the 12. Its a tough line to cross, or we can just say that the
machine has to be
Larry Friedman on 1/14/03 10:19 AM wrote:
Will it work on regular HFS volumes or only on HFS+ ? (That's what I
love about this list, all this obsolete troubleshooting info that
I've forgotton over the course of time and upgrades)
~ Larry
Command;Shift;Option;Delete should work with either
So far I got bup-kiss, it just sat there with the ? floppy icon.
Perhaps it doesn't work on multiple partitions.
~ Larry
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 11:00 AM, Mark A. Kippert wrote:
Larry Friedman on 1/14/03 10:19 AM wrote:
Will it work on regular HFS volumes or only on HFS+ ? (That's
on 1/14/03 10:59 AM, Larry Friedman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm relatively new to this list so you're more than welcome to take a
who do you think you are stance ;-). What happens when someone say
can't we include the 15 and 17 Powerbooks because they are so similar
to the 12. Its a tough
5. PCMCIA HD card 89MB and a 174MB card which I use as emergency drive
6. IBM Travelstar 8E replaced with 20GB HD
both of these now can be replace with Firewire external if I wanted
As far as emergency drive goes, let's not forget that these new machines
have an optical
Hi, ListMom here.
...trying to decide where we take the list.
Thoughts?
Eric Prentice
ListMom
I am sympathetic to expanding the list, because it is a small club that
will only dwindle in size. I initially thought it would make sense, when
you suggested it, to include the new 12, especially
Hi, ListMom here.
...trying to decide where we take the list.
Thoughts?
Eric Prentice
ListMom
Eric,
I'm changing my mind... After reading the recent posts, and
considering the following, my vote goes to keeping the lists separate.
In short?
It would be far easier for interested parties to
WHERE WE ALL 'WERE'
Last posting of this, I promise.
Thought I'd get this out before a number amongst us jump off to new toys.
Thanks for participating.
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1 1%Brandy
2 3%Brazil
1013%Canada
1 1%Finland
1 1%
Excellent suggestion, with the disclaimer of those who have upgraded
their pre-G3s to G3 (especially with the 1400 upgrade that's now
available).
~ Larry
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Ivan Drucker wrote:
Hi, ListMom here.
...trying to decide where we take the list.
Thoughts?
If the need was there, maybe. This list developed out of a need for a
support community. Anyone got a new 12 pb they need support with yet?
Andy
Hi, ListMom here.
...trying to decide where we take the list.
Thoughts?
Eric Prentice
ListMom
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Hello Everyone,
I don't understand why we all want to expand the list. If we are
going to take a stance that the 12 PB is a sub notebook, then why didn't
we do this when the iBook came out. It at least could share issues with upgraded
2400s that have G3 processors.
Just because a G4 processor
Hi,
I have asked before about the rebuilding of 2400 batteries, with
ABSOLUTELY no response! I guess I'll have to investigate it myself, but I
only have working batteries. Does anyone have an absolutely DEAD 2400
battery they'd part with for me to experiment on?
Is there any good
Buy one of the external batteries from ProVantage and you can then run
your 2400 for the better part of a day.
~ Larry
Has anyone bought and used one of those on the 2400c?
jake
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At 11:48 AM -0500 1/14/03, Ivan Drucker wrote:
Therefore, I would propose expanding it -- but rather than to include the
new compact portable, perhaps it should include other older PowerBooks.
I am not sure where the cutoff should be -- pre-Titanium/iBook? Pre-G3?
Old World?
And I would say
-- [ From: Azamat G. Farrakhov * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
Why to discuss so much? Is this a problem to open new list expressly for PB
G4 Al/12 or subscribe if exist?
Possibly sorry for English, Azamat
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And I would say ABSOLUTELY NOT! There is ALREADY a Powerbook list at
lowendmac, and Eric's lists should be planned in conjunction with Dan
Knight's lists, as they have been up to now.
Paul
Relax, I'd agree. I wasn't proposing any unilateral action at the expense
of other lists run by Eric or
Just curious, in view of all the problems that 5300's had and the
repair/trade -in programs offered as a result why hasn't Apple taken a
similar approach to 2400's? The GLOD symptom definitely is a very inherent
design defect and is as bad or worse than anything (other than flaming
batteries)
Does this mean that restarting and then holding down
Cmd-Opt-Shift-Delete
will not result in starting from one of the HFS+ partitions?
Yes, that's exactly what that key combination does, forces a Mac to look for
a volume other than the internal boot drive to start up from. This has even
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/10/03 12:03 PM wrote:
Apple announce a new browser for Macs (OS X only I think). The new brower is
called
Safari. Faster launch and loading of pages. Auto pop-up blocking. Etc.
You can download a public beta from Apple.
Apple has quietly posted an upgrade.
I've got to agree- if the iBook didn't make it on this list, then the
new ones shouldn't either. This can be a Neanderthal throwback support
list, as far as I'm concerned. But I'm an irrational collector of old
Duos, so perhaps i just need medication.
;-
David Cucuzza
Paul sez:
And I would
I've never found for sale the single Li-Ion cells for replacing those in 2400's
This kind of battery is present in Pismo or Lombard too, I took apart an used Lombard
battery and successfully replaced those in my 2400 batt. pack
Sergio
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I'll grow up when they pry Aaron Lite out of my cold dead interface.
~ Larry
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 05:53 PM, David Cucuzza wrote:
I've got to agree- if the iBook didn't make it on this list, then the
new ones shouldn't either. This can be a Neanderthal throwback support
list, as
As for boot order, I *think* it's in ascending SCSI ID order (but it might
be descending, there's a lot of SCSI controller trivia mixed up in my head
from the past twenty years ;). Originally the internal drive to skip
meant
SCSI device 0 - now it probably means the primary ATA controller.
I
Anyone looking for a little more storage on your PowerBook might check
this PCMCIA 107 MB out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4606item=2300708405
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Anyone know if this would require the Cardbus upgrade?
- Larry
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 07:17 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
Anyone looking for a little more storage on your PowerBook might check
this PCMCIA 107 MB out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/
I still haven't actually toyed with any IDE based Macs as my newest Mac is a
monster sized 9600 and I won't replace that unless Apple offersd a newer 6
PCI slot based Mac! :( (I'm pretty sure 9500/9600 is the last 6 slot Mac)
It is, though the current Power Macs (since 1/01) have only one less
Would not, it's standard PCMCIA ATA I am sure.
Anyone know if this would require the Cardbus upgrade?
- Larry
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 07:17 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
Anyone looking for a little more storage on your PowerBook might check
this PCMCIA 107 MB out:
I've been lurking for a year, since I acquired a Duo 2300. I'm afraid that if
the list expanded there would be a lot less of interest to me.
Let's stick with the status quo.
--Martha Lufkin, who started in '86 with a Plus.
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ListMom Eric wrote:
I'm considering transitioning the list into a more general Mac
Sub-compacts list.
I spend most of my time lurking, so not sure how much my
vote counts. I was a bit more active when I used my Duos
a lot, but switched first to a 1400 then to the white iBook
because my computing
List members,
I should be receiving a 2400c soon. I will need to adorn it's PCMCIA slot
with a 56k/ethernet PCMCIA card to facilitate using it. I have an Oronoco
Silver (Airport compatiable) card in my Wallstreet and am hoping I can use
it too.
Questions:
What do I need to do to use the airport
All that said, if I buy a Al/PB-12, I really would rather come here
than anywhere else to acquire the knowledge and wisdom of guys like
Sidney Ho, Chuck Goolsbee,
snip
Ralph, I'm flattered. =)
That said though... both Sidney I have been rather absent of late.
I can't speak for Sidney, but I
All that said, if I buy a Al/PB-12, I really would rather come here
than anywhere else to acquire the knowledge and wisdom of guys like
Sidney Ho, Chuck Goolsbee,
snip
Ralph, I'm flattered. =)
That said though... both Sidney I have been rather absent of late.
I can't speak for Sidney, but I
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