[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

I did it last night to a 2300 just to prove a point to myself! Worked like a charm! Brandy -Original Message- From: Duo/2400 List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leonard T. Coco Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:23 AM To: Duo/2400 List Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Have had this type of behavior several times and in some cases due to errors in boot blocks created by problem prevented drive from showing up in formater software, but also prevented proper booting of machine with drive connected. Only solution found was to hook drive up to PC and format under DO

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Laurent, I just got a PC 9Gig drive that I am using for a AV drive in an external case. I had the same problem, with the drive spinning, but slowly and it wouldn't show up on my desktop. I first used a mounting utility and that got the drive spinning at the normal speed and then I just initialized

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

on 12/12/00 12:52 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > No, Tom, I haven't, since I don't have it. I did try the APS tools that did > help me in the past, but not this time. I think that the problem has to do > with the fact that the drive seems to be spinning very slowly. It does

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

>That sound like what I heard. And I'm assuming zeroing out the disk trashes >the boot sector. Pooh! > >Sounds like an easy fix if you can cozy up to a PC laptop user. Last time: fdisk does the same thing as Drive Setup: it creates a boot block and partition table. Drive Setup also goes on to po

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

TECTED]]On Behalf > Of Laurent Daudelin > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:59 AM > To: Duo/2400 List > Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD > > > First of all, just to make things clear, I didn't do a low level format. > That option was disabled from the in

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

on 12/12/00 00:47, Tom Ethen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Laurent, > Having not followed this from the beginning, I am sending this just to you. > Have you > tried hard drive tool kit, by first using the mounting section to simply > access the > drive, then use the tool kit to initialize the dri

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Laurent, Having not followed this from the beginning, I am sending this just to you. Have you tried hard drive tool kit, by first using the mounting section to simply access the drive, then use the tool kit to initialize the drive, after which it should be accessible to you. Tom Laurent Daudelin

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

on 11/12/00 15:00, Marc Sira at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> A while back I bought a Maxtor 13gig IDE drive for a desktop Mac. One of the >> warning I got from someone was not to do a low-level format of the drive as >> this could render it "unseeable" by the Mac. Seem like it wipes out drivers >>

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

) > Brandy > -Original Message- > From: Duo/2400 List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Laurent Daudelin > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:59 AM > To: Duo/2400 List > Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD > > > First of all, just to make

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

ay, December 11, 2000 4:58 PM To: Duo/2400 List Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD > Why would you use a laptop? You can buy a 2.5" to 3.5" > IDE adapter and use a desktop. You can find these > adapters at you local electronics shop. Spend money, hook up adapter, ins

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

It's from a 2300 I think! Brandy -Original Message- From: Duo/2400 List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 6:16 PM To: Duo/2400 List Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD There was a discussion many moons ago about Toshiba d

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

There was a discussion many moons ago about Toshiba drives just not working in the 2400. Try and trade it for an IBM. andy -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Brandy on 12/11/00 8:57 PM wrote: > Think about it - the state a factory-new disk > comes in is completely zeroed, so Drive Setup is actually expecting > to see them that way. So it's totally zeroed including the boot block? -makmac -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net!

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

I'll let you know in about an hour maybe 2 since I am doing it now! Brandy -Original Message- From: Duo/2400 List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc Sira Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:09 PM To: Duo/2400 List Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD I have my d

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

>>Anyone care to answer about the cable question? I just know such cables >>exist. >> >>Now, if the drive doesn't appear in Drive Setup, that is a problem, since it >>obviously did at one point. Did you originally format the drive with Drive >>Setup?? (Personally, I never use Drive Setup -- I'd

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

>Yes you can! >Using Fdisk on and PC will do it! The drive becomes un-mountable without an >active boot partition. It's not clear whether you mean unmountable from Windows, or unmountable on the Mac - presumably the former. Either way this has nothing to do with reformatting the drive. The "ac

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

> >Anyone care to answer about the cable question? I just know such cables >exist. > >Now, if the drive doesn't appear in Drive Setup, that is a problem, since it >obviously did at one point. Did you originally format the drive with Drive >Setup?? (Personally, I never use Drive Setup -- I'd rat

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Brandy on 12/11/00 7:39 PM wrote: > When you loose the boot sector it becomes invisible, it won't mount on a PC > either without running Fdisk to restore the boot sector! Fdisk will find > the drive and allow you to create a new boot sector, partition and format. That sound like what I heard. A

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Shane on 12/11/00 6:46 PM wrote: > Why would you use a laptop? You can buy a 2.5" to 3.5" > IDE adapter and use a desktop. You can find these > adapters at you local electronics shop. Spend money, hook up adapter, install in desktop PC (because it may still be an issue of the Mac OS not "seeing"

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark A. Kippert Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 1:15 PM To: Duo/2400 List Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD Brandy on 12/11/00 3:37 PM wrote: > Yes you can! > Using Fdisk on and PC will do it! The drive becomes un-mountable without an > active

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Why would you use a laptop? You can buy a 2.5" to 3.5" IDE adapter and use a desktop. You can find these adapters at you local electronics shop. ShaneW > If what you're saying is true, even with the write > zero option, that's a > real bummer. I don't have any "real" friend with a > Windoze lap

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Brandy on 12/11/00 3:37 PM wrote: > Yes you can! > Using Fdisk on and PC will do it! The drive becomes un-mountable without an > active boot partition. Perhaps that's what I was told. I'm sure there was a way to render an IDE drive "invisible" to the Mac. Just don't remember the specifics. -ma

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

I recently had a drive (2GB IBM) that I had to reformat on a PC before I could use it on my 2400. I put it in an external PCMCIA case from MCE (Data Shuttle) and used a friend's PC laptop to do the job. It worked like a charm. I think that every 2400 owner should have a Data Shuttle if they ha

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Marc Sira on 12/11/00 3:00 PM wrote: > This is simply not true. A driver installer utility (Drive Setup, > HDT, Anubis, etc) can see the drive if it's present and functioning; > it doesn't need a driver or any particular contents. Indeed, that's > the whole point. The Finder can't see any disk vo

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

: Problem with Internal HD Second, there is no way to do a low-level format on an IDE drive - the drive has no concept of it (unlike a SCSI drive). -- Marc Sira | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If you can't play with words, what good are they?" -- Duo/2400 List,

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

>A while back I bought a Maxtor 13gig IDE drive for a desktop Mac. One of the >warning I got from someone was not to do a low-level format of the drive as >this could render it "unseeable" by the Mac. Seem like it wipes out drivers >or does something to block zero but I can't recall exactly as it'

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

At 11:07 AM -0500 12/11/00, Laurent Daudelin wrote: >I've tried to restart, but the drive wouldn't show up in the Finder. >I've went to Drive Setup again, but the drive wouldn't appear in the >drives list. > >The odd thing I did notice is when I reboot, or restart the Duo. The >drive starts spinni

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Take it in, have them format it for you! Brandy -Original Message- From: Duo/2400 List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf To: Duo/2400 List Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD Laurent Daudelin on 12/11/00 12:58 PM wrote: When I had problems with the first Toshiba drive I

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Laurent Daudelin on 12/11/00 12:58 PM wrote: > If what you're saying is true, even with the write zero option, that's a > real bummer. I don't have any "real" friend with a Windoze laptop. And > if I had one, that would mean I would have to ask him to remove it's > current drive, stick mine in, t

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Of Laurent Daudelin Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:59 AM To: Duo/2400 List Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD First of all, just to make things clear, I didn't do a low level format. That option was disabled from the initialization options in Drive Setup. I checked the w

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

"Mark A. Kippert" wrote: > > Laurent Daudelin on 12/11/00 11:07 AM wrote: > > > In the process of preparing my stuff for sale, I decided to format the > > Fujitsu (Apple OEM) 4.3 GB drive in my Duo 2300c, because I wanted to > > sell it separately. I selected the zero writing options in the > >

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

Laurent Daudelin on 12/11/00 11:07 AM wrote: > In the process of preparing my stuff for sale, I decided to format the > Fujitsu (Apple OEM) 4.3 GB drive in my Duo 2300c, because I wanted to > sell it separately. I selected the zero writing options in the > initialization options in Drive Setup, a

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

"Eric L. Strobel" wrote: > > on 12/11/00 11:15 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > "Eric L. Strobel" wrote: > >> > >> on 12/11/00 11:07 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all! > >>> > >>> In the process of preparing my stuff for sale, I decid

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

on 12/11/00 11:15 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "Eric L. Strobel" wrote: >> >> on 12/11/00 11:07 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> In the process of preparing my stuff for sale, I decided to format the >>> Fujitsu (Apple OEM) 4.3 GB

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

"Eric L. Strobel" wrote: > > on 12/11/00 11:07 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > In the process of preparing my stuff for sale, I decided to format the > > Fujitsu (Apple OEM) 4.3 GB drive in my Duo 2300c, because I wanted to > > sell it separately. I selec

[Duo2400] Re: Problem with Internal HD

on 12/11/00 11:07 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all! > > In the process of preparing my stuff for sale, I decided to format the > Fujitsu (Apple OEM) 4.3 GB drive in my Duo 2300c, because I wanted to > sell it separately. I selected the zero writing options in the > initi