[e-gold-list] $250 E-Gold reg bonus at WB-CASINO.COM

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[e-gold-list] Re: Virtual Gold

2003-08-03 Thread info
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[e-gold-list] Re: EVOCash added now at E-Gold Casino !

2003-08-03 Thread White Bear
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[e-gold-list] Re: $250 E-Gold reg bonus at WB-CASINO.COM

2003-08-03 Thread mike
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[e-gold-list] Stealing Trademarked Words (was: Re: EVOCash...)

2003-08-03 Thread James M. Ray
White Bear wrote: Dear Sir, up to now we did not received any questions from e-Gold ltd. We think that Up to now, your casino didn't have e-gold's trademark in its name... as any e-currency payment system in the net e-Gold needs promotion and new clients. So they must be interested if we adverti

[e-gold-list] Re: $250 E-Gold reg bonus at WB-CASINO.COM

2003-08-03 Thread mike
After depositing $1000 from e-gold to try them out, I show a ZERO balance in the games. I sent them an ICQ and they are offline. I called the phone number and no answer. I sent an email by clicking on Contact Us and this was my reply: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns

[e-gold-list] Re: Antigua Granted WTO Hearing On US Online

2003-08-03 Thread FileMatrix
Robert wrote: "The bad thing would be that e-gold once again would become an all-too painful thorn in the side of big government and they would do their very best to force some kind of disclossure." Maybe, then, they'll consider moving (the servers) offshore! P.S. Of course, not the government...

[e-gold-list] R: Stealing Trademarked Words (was: Re: EVOCash...)

2003-08-03 Thread PBG Admin
> Promos != casino-URLs. Get rid of it. Or be sensible like TGC > did and put a "th" in front of that egold (I'm sure e-gold > Ltd.'s lawyers don't > care about > the word, "the"!). It's *SO* easy to get around this stuff if you're > AT ALL > even a tiny-bit creative about avoiding litigation...

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread James M. Ray
PBG Admin wrote: ... like for example www.thegoldlotto.com ;o))) ... Exactly. Remember, too, that we're discussing LAW here, not logic. Logically, everyone would always get along, and there would never be any disputes. The law here, IMO, tries in its very-imperfect way to MINIMIZE disputes

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Adam Selene
James M. Ray wrote: > Exactly. Remember, too, that we're discussing LAW here, not > logic...I am not a lawyer, though, so this is just a layperson's > opinion of how this stuff usually-works. Consult a real lawyer > for real legal advice. I think that about sums it up. The prefix "e-" (Merriam

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread jpm
Regarding generic words, as an exception, it is possible to maintain a trademark within a specific industry. For example, Apple Computer could successfully prevent someone else using "apple" (or even names of apple varities such as macintosh) in the computer industry. However, defending generi

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Adam Selene
And to follow up with a bit of legal summary, excepts from bitlaw.com regarding trademarks. "Trademark rights arise in the United States from the actual use of the mark. Thus, if a product is sold under a brand name, common law trademark rights have been created." "A mark is infringed under U.S.

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread jpm
"A mark is infringed under U.S. trademark law when another person uses a device (a mark) so as to cause confusion as to the source or sponsorship of the goods or services involved Right, it's that simple. Note, under standard trademark law, E-Gold Ltd would need to argue that using e-gold

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Adam Selene
> An example is "Ford Automobiles". You and I could not start a "Ford > Tire Company" or "Ford Windhsield Wiper Factory" or so on. You could > start Ford Marshmallows, but not Ford Leather Auto Seating. Ford > Clinic, but not Ford Tow Bars. What aboug Ford's Towing Company? http://www.ford

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread jpm
I'm just talking, Adam, about what the reality is. Not political views on trademarks and how it SHOULD be, just what would happen in all first world countries. Granted, and unfortunately you are probably 100% correct. fair enough, i didn't mean to be unctuous by the way. I does just seem like

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Katz Global Media
JPM, it seems to me you are very emotional over this (as you obviously have an interest in some way with e-gold LTD) which may server to scare some people, but tell me where is the case history in protecting your particular trademark? Has your company taken anyone to court to date over tradema

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "Adam Selene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 13:28:52 -0600 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words > > > I think that about sums it up. > > The prefix "e-" (Merriam-Webster: electronic) is generic. To sugge

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread jpm
I guess e-trade is sol. I couldn't see someone starting e-trade-mutual.com for an electronically traded mutual fund, or e-trade-realestate, a site where property is traded electronically. Such names would be viewed as somehow having a connection or being endorsed by E-trade. Similarly, if I operate

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread jpm
JPM, it seems to me you are very emotional over this (as you obviously have an interest in some way with e-gold LTD) Gordon -- don't you know? I am actually Douglas Jackson. AND I am actually Jim Ray -- AND I am actually Jay Wherley. AND I am Barry Downey! (No wonder I know so much about IP

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Adam Selene
> I think e-gold(tm) should vigorously pursue to the ends of the Earth > anyone who violates the e-gold trademark. Well at this point, speculation to the contrary notwithstanding, they have not. Gold & Silver Reserve, Inc. v. Giacomo Furlan http://www.arbforum.com/domains/decisions/109054.htm T

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello JP and Adam We have actually been getting the usual form letter for two domains we had registered recently, replied to them, explained, and that was that. The domains I am referring to are: e-golddinar.com and egolddinar.com There are two main distinctions between the two above and e-gold-c

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread jpm
Robert, the following is PURELY FOR WHAT ITS WORTH. I love you but if you told all that to an attorney he'd glaze over for ten minutes and then he'd be like.. "dude, here's a newsflash, you have "e-gold" in your name, you can't do that" Honest to God, it's that simple. Just to be clear ... (

[e-gold-list] movies starring 400 oz. bricks...

2003-08-03 Thread jrw
here's one i just caught: _The Day They Robbed the Bank of England_ (1960) enjoyable B/W fictional heist set in 1901 London. nice vault scenes - lots of 400 ounce bars lying about. it sure took a lot of bars in those days to total up to a million pounds sterling! http://us.imdb.com/Title?0053752

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Asiana Gold
If you are trying to use the "e-gold" trade mark in your domain and also use the largest electronic gold currency on the planet, this section of the e-gold account user agreement seems relevant: 4.6 Right of Association Issuer reserves the right to refuse service to particular users or entities

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Katz Global Media
> I'm not e-gold Ltd and I don't know how they work but it makes sense to > me that they > may prevent you from having a functional e-gold account long before > they take > legal action. they already do this as I have seen a few people attempt to register their accounts using e-gold in the acc

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Adam Selene
My recollection that there was an important distinction between e-gold (with the hypen) and egold (without the hypen) appears to be incorrect. I was recalling all the ruckus over e-cash and ecash, with several parties each claiming trademarks and prior use over the term "ecash" (without hypen), w

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello Gordon, We registered the domains for the Malaysian government to preempt some crook doing it and bringing the Golddinar into direpute before anything got off the ground. The government doe to the best of my knowledge neither own an e-gold account, nor are they likely to want one. So I don't

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Asiana Gold
Joel wrote: If you are trying to use the "e-gold" trade mark in your domain and also use the largest electronic gold currency on the planet, Robert S.Z. wrote: Malaysia doesn't have an e-gold account, to the best of my knowledge and hence they are not subject to any agreement with e-gold. So the u

[e-gold-list] Re: $250 E-Gold reg bonus at WB-CASINO.COM

2003-08-03 Thread mike
After 12 hours, I still can not access any games. My Casino balance shows 12500 in chips from a $1000 deposit, all emails to the casino bounce, the ICQ is offline and the phone still will not answer. So, anyone know what the hell is going on with this casino. I can not even take my money back.

[e-gold-list] Need a cheque sent to pay account.

2003-08-03 Thread admin
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[e-gold-list] Re: Need a cheque sent to pay account.

2003-08-03 Thread Robert S.Z.
You want a USD cheque sent in the US? No problem, we can do that. If you want us to make a cash deposit into an account in a number of countries, then www.cyfrocash.net does that. However, if you want to buy e-gold, then we can't help you, unless you are an exchanger. Cheers, Robert. THE CYBERFRO

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Robert S.Z.
> Joel wrote: > I was talking about merchants that rely on having an e-gold account. > And that is exactly the point I'm trying to make. eGolddinar.com will not be a merchant. It will be an information site. You and I, we both know that CyberFrontier has other plans that involve Malaysia, the Mid

[e-gold-list] Transferring Money to Africa

2003-08-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
For several years my father has been involved in mission work in Africa, principally Ivory Coast but also Swaziland. He knows quite a few people who have escaped the war-torn Ivory Coast across the river into Liberia, so it's sort of out of the frying pan and into the fire. It's a real mess

[e-gold-list] Re: Transferring Money to Africa

2003-08-03 Thread James M. Ray
Patrick Chkoreff wrote: ... Anyway, for what it's worth. I would appreciate any leads or suggestions however tenuous. ... Perhaps an ISP or a telco could help? Outside of South Africa I don't think there's very much exchange activity, but I could be wrong. It would certainly be ironic (but not a

[e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words

2003-08-03 Thread Cambist.net
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 14:51:21 -0600 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: R: Stealing Trademarked Words > > Gordon -- don't you know? I am actually Douglas Jackson. AND I am > actually Jim Ray -- AND I am actually Jay Wherley.

[e-gold-list] Re: Transferring Money to Africa

2003-08-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 01:41 AM, James M. Ray wrote: Perhaps an ISP or a telco could help? Outside of South Africa I don't think there's very much exchange activity, but I could be wrong. It would certainly be ironic (but not all that surprising, IMO) if an African telephone company first g