[e-gold-list] Re: question on coins

2003-10-21 Thread Robert B.Z.
Hello Jens, You do of course have a point, but I think the reason for coins is mainly that they are with us as since shortly after the concept of money was invented (metal supplies permitting and shell money and similar exemptions not withstanding). Old habits die hard, I suppose. I do actually

[e-gold-list] Re: fake V-cash login spam

2003-10-21 Thread Robert B.Z.
Hello Jim, Divin, our resident tech says that this one is either being sent from a guy who uses own mail account, or alternatively the mail servers allow unverified relays. Seems the provider is http://www.optonline.net/ and they appear to have ignored a nudge we sent them three days ago. At

[e-gold-list] Scam email

2003-10-21 Thread FileMatrix
Same email as yesterday, but different destination site... Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost by xsams2 with LMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:33:10 +0300 Received: from mta1.xnet.ro (mta1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.225]) by xsams2.xnet.ro (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.6)

[e-gold-list] Difference between bank wire and ACH ?

2003-10-21 Thread E-gold member
Hello all, I'm a little confused about the difference between an ACH (Automatic Clearing House) and a bank wire. The thing is that used electronic banking to wire(?) an amount to a well known exchanger. Unfortunately the exchanger couldn't find the wire. I've completed all the forms on the

[e-gold-list] Re: Difference between bank wire and ACH ?

2003-10-21 Thread James M. Ray
(I have VERY-limited knowledge of banking/banks, but...) My dim understanding is that wires are like rifle-shots while an ACH retains some of the boomerang-characteristics of a check (meaning they can reverse your $$ on a whim!) while avoiding the costly and inconvenient pieces of paper for the

[e-gold-list] Re: question on coins

2003-10-21 Thread James M. Ray
Wilkinson Jens wrote: ... When dealing with paper money and coins, is there really a good reason to have coins at all? ... Well, aside from the historical reasons, there are emotional reasons to have coins, IMO. Everyone needs to feel a one oz gold or silver coin and play with it for a

[e-gold-list] Re: Difference between bank wire and ACH ?

2003-10-21 Thread James M. Ray
E-gold member wrote: ... My dim understanding is that wires are like rifle-shots while an ACH retains some of the boomerang-characteristics of a check while avoiding the costly and inconvenient pieces of paper for the bank. Then it seems to me an ACH is more complicated and should thus be

[e-gold-list] Re: Difference between bank wire and ACH ?

2003-10-21 Thread jpm
No, no, it's more-complicated and *banker* administrated! Banks can trace both wires ACH, AFAIK, but with wires they must ask your permission to reverse funds, etc. totally incorrect With an ACH they do as they see fit depending on the situation or their mood or the customer or maybe other

[e-gold-list] Re: Difference between bank wire and ACH ?

2003-10-21 Thread James M. Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... dude you're spreading BS, no offense. stop it ! Simple fact: wires are not safe, wires can be reversed. What I said is that wires are safer than ACH. Yes, wires can be reversed, and the whole banking system is way confusing, but I still think a wire's much better

[e-gold-list] Re: Difference between bank wire and ACH ?

2003-10-21 Thread Robert B.Z.
Okay here goes: ACH is a proprietary, American system that compliments the account system structure of associated banks and identifies recepients based on the sorting code and account number. It uses a central database that sorts incoming and outgoing transactions based on the sorting code and

[e-gold-list] Re: Goldbarter Post

2003-10-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 04:41 AM, Phil Watson wrote: For the cigar aficionados in the group... I have posted a box of Cuban cigars - Montecristo #2 on goldbarter ellsmoke Cool! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a

[e-gold-list] Re: question on coins

2003-10-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 02:15 AM, Robert B.Z. wrote: I do actually believe that coins are more expensive than paper notes (to mint, transport and store) but also more durable. However there is the administrative part that allows you to simply weigh coins to determine the number of

[e-gold-list] The One eyed man...

2003-10-21 Thread Graham Kelly
Guys, Perhaps this subject should be renamed, Difference between the US banking system... and the rest of the world! Most countries *outside* the US have fairly intelligent, customer orientated, intuitive, reasonably quick, reasonably priced ONLINE banking transfer systems. The US system is

[e-gold-list] The One eyed man... continued!

2003-10-21 Thread Graham Kelly
Guys, What I failed to emphasize in my little rant, was the fact that the *terrible* US banking system simply leads to a LOT of opportunity for any of us to jump right in, and invent a REAL transaction transfer system... based on what's working, plus new ideas, using new technology. That's my

[e-gold-list] Re: The One eyed man...

2003-10-21 Thread Robert B.Z.
Graham, This is from my personal experience, and personal opinion. And you are spot on as well :o) I was trying not to lash out too harshly, thinking that many people on the list might have not seen or experienced efficient banking systems and hence dismiss my remarks as mere rantings. I have

[e-gold-list] Re: Mock trial

2003-10-21 Thread Robert B.Z.
Oh goodie, Can I file 'friends of the court' briefs? Serious, if you go through with it, then that would be something worth saving and linking to for people who don't know what it's all about, just yet. Count me in. Cheers, Robert. budget privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net

[e-gold-list] URGENT !! Our e-gold account was just hacked!

2003-10-21 Thread info
Dear List and especially e-gold admin and exchangers, VirtualGold admin account 617184 was just hacked: 10/21/03 21:59 Payment Made 26554065 Gold -2.983469 842584 1,137.00 USD 381.10 To: richard's e-gold Memo: for rich This is very very strange as we only use one computer specially to

[e-gold-list] e-gold funded ATM cash cards (WMcards)

2003-10-21 Thread Bob
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2003-10-21 Thread jpm
I guess that answers the question JimD ! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to

[e-gold-list] A Free Zone in Alabama

2003-10-21 Thread zenbiker
The original post is from Sephen Gordon at Libertarian Opportunities. This might be a good opportunity for e-gold and other alternative currencies to make a mark! Frank (I am passing this on from a message on another of my e-mail lists. It seemed fit with the general purpose of this e-mail