"Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Efficiency? You think a criminal enterprise can enforce efficiency?
> They can't even do that in the Military. Show me one government
> operation
> that is efficient. Just one!
Easy! How about their hiring offices for shiny new bureaucrats? Those
seem to be
Natural resources -- including land -- are, by definition, completely useless
until somebody takes first ownership and makes something of them. Try a
little thought exercise:
"David Hillary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[big snip]
> The right to exclude other's from nature's benefits is a go
> The right to exclude other's from nature's benefits is a government
> granted right and it has economic value. Land titles are government
> created legal rights to the exclusive use of natural resources. Land and
> natural resources are prior to human employment and use and to economic
> product
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Natural resources -- including land -- are, by definition, completely useless
> until somebody takes first ownership and makes something of them. Try a
> little thought exercise:
>
> "David Hillary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[big snip]
> > The right to excl
> >Land and "natural resources" are prior to human employment but they have
> >no human value prior to human employment. All value is a consequence of
> >production; nature by itself has no benefits. When the value produced
> >by one individual is or would be destroyed by the actions of another
> Establishing property rights in a fishery goes like this:
> You go and get some fish.
> When you have them on board and off the decks (so you can't easily
> loose them), they are now your property. No government required here.
>
> The government auctioning the right to fish presupposes that the
Craig Spencer wrote:
>
> > The right to exclude other's from nature's benefits is a government
> > granted right and it has economic value. Land titles are government
> > created legal rights to the exclusive use of natural resources. Land and
> > natural resources are prior to human employment a
David Hillary wrote:
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > David Hillary wrote:
> >
> > The allocation of
> > > natural resources in these circumstances is characterised by
> > > inefficiency and imprudent use (e.g. a fishery will by inefficiently
> > > over-harvested if many fishers can access it without rest
Bob wrote:
>
> David Hillary wrote:
>
> >Human demand is responsible for all economic/ground rent, as the supply
> >of land is inelastic.
>
> Granted it's inelastic. But there's buko amounts of it. You can give
> all the people in the world a tiny house and fit 'em in the state
> of Texas.
>
>
Bob wrote:
>
> David Hillary wrote:
>
> The allocation of
> > natural resources in these circumstances is characterised by
> > inefficiency and imprudent use (e.g. a fishery will by inefficiently
> > over-harvested if many fishers can access it without restriction). In
> > order to use the pric
> The right to exclude other's from nature's benefits is a government
> granted right and it has economic value. Land titles are government
> created legal rights to the exclusive use of natural resources. Land
> and natural resources are prior to human employment and use and to
> economic produc
> A free market will conserve the fish just fine.
There are a lot of interesting variables in this.
I had a conservation teacher who was a good old boy. He had a friend that
owned an entire closed off valley near Yellowstone. The valley owner managed
the whole ecosystem and had a hunting lodge.
Craig Spencer wrote:
>
> > Well, there's still these book makers in town doing a *big* business.
> > There's The Gold Casino on line. There are gambling options besides
> > the government of Massachusetts' games.
>
> Yes, but Massachusetts excludes competition IN Massachusetts for the
> type of
David Hillary wrote:
>[of course gambling is not popular in the world's most free market, >Hong Kong, is it
>Bob?
Good point David. I didn't think that one out. Gambling seems to
be very popular in a lot of places. At least in Hong Kong one
pretty much has the freedom to dig your own grave or b
David Hillary wrote:
>Human demand is responsible for all economic/ground rent, as the supply
>of land is inelastic.
Granted it's inelastic. But there's buko amounts of it. You can give
all the people in the world a tiny house and fit 'em in the state
of Texas.
And, I can have a better job of h
David Hillary wrote:
The allocation of
> natural resources in these circumstances is characterised by
> inefficiency and imprudent use (e.g. a fishery will by inefficiently
> over-harvested if many fishers can access it without restriction). In
> order to use the price mechanism to ration the li
> Well, there's still these book makers in town doing a *big* business.
> There's The Gold Casino on line. There are gambling options besides
> the government of Massachusetts' games.
Yes, but Massachusetts excludes competition IN Massachusetts for the
type of gambling it offers. This is a coer
Bob wrote:
>
> David Hillary wrote:
>
> >
> > The govt can get revenue from gaming because it regulates and
> > monopolises and taxes the industry, and believe me gaming taxes are not
> > voluntary!
>
> Well, there's still these book makers in town doing a *big* business.
> There's The Gold Cas
David Hillary wrote:
>
> The govt can get revenue from gaming because it regulates and
> monopolises and taxes the industry, and believe me gaming taxes are not
> voluntary!
Well, there's still these book makers in town doing a *big* business.
There's The Gold Casino on line. There are gamblin
CCS wrote:
>
> Good serious thinking.
>
> > The only public revenue that is truly just and justified is that which
> > is associated with and derived from the government's proper role in
> > creating and allocating property rights in natural resources,
>
> But I would argue that the government
Good serious thinking.
> The only public revenue that is truly just and justified is that which
> is associated with and derived from the government's proper role in
> creating and allocating property rights in natural resources,
But I would argue that the government does not "create" property
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