Re: Susan Clayton's comments on rights and duties
> I become nervous whenever anyone talks about a particular right as if it
> were absolute ("life" and "free speech" are often used in this way) without
> a recognition of the fact that these rights, as exercised in particular
> instances, may
POSTED BY: The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.
DESCRIPTION: This is Paul Watson's official account about being
attacked by sealers in the Magdalen Islands. It looks like the seal wars
are back on. "Seals are meant to be clubbed, not coddled," said one
representative of the Sealing Associat
On Thu, 23 Mar 1995, Susan Clayton wrote:
> So many people have said things on both sides that I agree with.
> Maybe it means something different for women to think of the Earth as
> Mother (a strong, nurturing figure with which/whom they can identify) than
> for men to think of the Earth as Mo
The distinction between materialism and idealism that I think Bertina
referred to is the split between those who think that change will come
about through changing material/institutional relations versus those who
think change will come about through changing people's "heads" or ideas.
(Whew -
On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Katrin Zafiriadis wrote:
The gendering of the earth as woman happens in one of 4
> possible ways: 1. as a romanticized female needing protection, 2.as a
> victimized woman, 3.as a woman caretaker/breeder who constantly
> replenishes and provides for all as a mother would or
Yes Faith, exactly! And that I think is part of the point of the last
post that I sent, though I got it muddled in there somewhere.
To assume that regarding E as Mom will only bring forth those negative
perceptions is to miss out on the whole picture. The power-over paradigm
have put those a
I think Coyote and Jayne are circling around something vry interesting,
here, and that is the question of just how much our thinking is STILL
dominated by patriarchal assumptions and ... just as important ... how
can we stand firmly outside of those assumptions, address them as needed,
and h
I think that you are missing a point here, Bertina.
Unlike Patriarchal religions, we are not going to force you to do or be
anything you don't want. However that shouldn't mean that you can't at
least consider what many of us who are spiritual have to say, nor does it
mean that anyone has the ri
On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Bertina Miller wrote:
>
> I must respectfully disagree with you. To me and others who are not
> spiritualists do not have to be spiritually connected to anything to have
> a connection to all living things including the Earth. The concept of the
> Earth as a living thing
Um...
I said "I am refering to somthing" I should have said "someone".
See how the dominator culture permeates our very subconscious?
Joy Williams
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Scion in the Church of All Worlds
"The Garrulous Grok Flok"
Thou Art Goddess!
On Thu, 23 Mar 1995, Dancing Hummingbird /aka Joy Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Bertina Miller wrote:
> > a connection to all living things including the Earth. The concept of the
> > Earth as a living thing is fine, but I do draw a line as to what sort of
> > living thing it is.
> E
On Thu, 23 Mar 1995, Jayne S Docherty wrote:
In its
> secularized setting, there seems to be a missing piece... To whom must
> the "stewards" answer for their practices in relation to the
> environment? Perhaps future generations?
Given the distinct possibility that we have reached the sta
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