The satisfaction of not being a parent

2007-11-29 Thread Tim Murray
Hello, forgive me, I am just a voyeur to the discussion. Osmar, I think = you are mistaken. There is something more satisfying than being a = parent. It is being an uncle. That has always been my deep biological = urge. To spend quality time with my nephew, to give him my best 5 or 6 = hours a

Re: She will not have babies

2007-11-29 Thread Marie Wilson
I completely agree with Laura. The fact that this woman had an abortion to reduce her carbon footprint is quite scary. I think her choice to, after this occurrence, search out a doctor to perform a sterility procedure to definitively prevent any future pregnancies was a very good choice to

population control

2007-11-29 Thread Steve Brewer
As an ecologist, I am certainly sensitive to the environmental consequences of unchecked population growth, and as a proud father of three, I nonetheless respect (and during moments of weakness envy) the decision of couples not to have children. I try to do what I can for the environment by

Re: She will not have babies

2007-11-29 Thread Abraham de Alba A.
Another third world, but with the knowledge from science Noone to quote, but it is a well researched area in sociology, it is the empowering of women which actually lowers conception rates, not the minimum wage as most of us thought in the 70's My one cent Abraham de Alba Avila

Marine/aquatic Job Postings

2007-11-29 Thread Richard Mansfield
Marine/aquatic Job Postings: Sorry for the delay in posting this. A while ago I asked about listservs etc for fish jobs. There are a lot of sites here that have very different biology jobs other than fish, hope this helps someone else, Thanks to everyone who helped out. Here is what I got back:

Conservation Ecologist job announcement

2007-11-29 Thread Bob Allen
The New Jersey chapter of The Nature Conservancy has an opening for a Conservation Ecologist, located in Eldora, New Jersey. The Conservation Ecologist conducts conservation measures using GIS and field-based methodologies, supports conservation planning efforts, provides expertise on

Re: image processing software for leaf images. (11/27)

2007-11-29 Thread Christine Creese (Czerniak)
You might want to check out Scion/NIH Image too. Cheers, Chris Quoting Rebecca Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jon, We have a protocol that uses PhotoShop and ImageJ (freeware from NIH) to calculate herbivory 'manually' for tropical and temperate forest leaf scans. It is a bit labour

Seeking Work in Mexico

2007-11-29 Thread David Perez
I was wondering if anyone knows of any jobs or MS programs available in Mexico related to ecology: research, restoration, etc. Thanks, Dave Perez RPCV Bolivia '05-'07

Graduate opportunities at SUNY-ESF

2007-11-29 Thread Forest Ecology
Support is available for graduate students (MS or PhD) in the areas of ecosystem nutrient cycling and forest dynamics, to start in fall or (preferably) summer 2008. 1. Nutrient concentration and content of litterfall: Litterfall is a very important nutrient flux that is difficult to measure

Job announcement: Tenure track position in Plant Biology at San Jose State University

2007-11-29 Thread Susan Lambrecht
ASSISTANT PROFESSOR Plant Biology Applicants must possess a Ph.D. in Plant Biology or closely related discipline with expertise in either plant systematics or conservation biology, preferably in which GIS technology or molecular techniques are employed to answer ecological or taxonomic questions.

Re: population control

2007-11-29 Thread Gross, Michael
The Social Security issue could be helped by removing the cap on % of personal income subject to social security tax (without increasing the maximum benefit). Currently the cap is about $100,000. Mike Gross Georgian Court University Lakewood, NJ 08701 -Original Message- From:

Re: She will not have babies

2007-11-29 Thread Liane Cochran-Stafira
I would disagree that this behavior promotes zero=20 fitness in all cases. If a sibling has kids,=20 then the childless individual has some level of=20 inclusive fitness. I agree that this would be=20 rare if it caused a loss in fitness, but, aren't=20 there examples of animals/plants/microbes

Re: The satisfaction of not being a parent

2007-11-29 Thread Osmar Luiz JĂșnior
Thank you for your message Tim. About being a uncle more satisfying than = a father I think that it=92s a quite personal feeling and as all personal= options its don=92t worth the discussion. Anyway, for one be a uncle, so= meone must have a kid. Some people could view this as a runaway from

Re: The satisfaction of not being a parent

2007-11-29 Thread Jay P Sah
Tim, No doubt, besides being a parent for satisfaction, there can be other more promising ways to be satisfied. However, the alternative you have suggested to get satisfied by helping a nephew/niece or others' children seems not so convincing. The point is, if everyone starts thinking to

Re: She will not have babies

2007-11-29 Thread Anita Stone
I must say that I am very disturbed by both posts below. I know this is Ecolog and not an abortion debate forum, but to me the posts indicate that the woman in question did something wrong by exercising her choice to terminate her pregnancy. Women all over the world make this decision for

Re: population control

2007-11-29 Thread Michele Scardi
Thursday, November 29, 2007, 2:53:57 PM, Steve Brewer wrote: SB I wonder how many ecologists in the U.S., however, have considered SB that producing children is necessary to keep Social Security from SB collapsing. ... Steve, I completely agree with you. However, although I certainly respect

Re: Population control

2007-11-29 Thread Amartya Saha
Oh well. Here's that old north vs south debate again. Yes, things would be extreme if all 500 million individuals had the resource usage of the first world. As regards the lady who decided to be childless, its her trip and no one has any business passing judgements on that. But if she were indeed

Re: population control

2007-11-29 Thread News
2 Recommended flicks: Children of Men, starring Clive Owen. (2006) Based on a not too distant future in which humans have lost the ability to procreate, the movie starts out with the world's baby, (youngest living human), an 18 year old, being murdered. Then the celebrity status reverts to a 20

Field Biologist and Intern positions for 2008

2007-11-29 Thread Amy Finfera
My apologies for cross posting. The following seasonal positions are open for applications for the summer of 2008, for the MONITORING AVIAN PRODUCTIVITY AND SURVIVORSHIP (MAPS) PROGRAM, through The Institute for Bird Populations. Please share with any interested individuals you may know.

Population and macroeconomic policy

2007-11-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carrie writes, Thirdly, I am astonished that anyone would use the failure of the U.S. Social Security program as a reason to have children! It may be astonishing to us as ecologists, but we have to be aware that the entire macroeconomic framework - Social Security and much more - is geared

Re: She will not have babies

2007-11-29 Thread Krzysiek Sakrejda
For the sake of completeness: the U.S. has also engaged in forced sterilization--definitely for the mentally ill and Native Americans. The former was based on false notions of how heritable various conditions were, but I don't know if the latter had any front put on it. Krzysztof On Nov 29,

Re: She will not have babies

2007-11-29 Thread Laura Jodice
Here is a follow-up thought. It is not a scary thought that someone would exert their free choice due to belief this will reduce their own impact on the earth...it is however scary to think forced abortion or forced sterilization are solutions to environmental problems. In china there are