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Hello All,
It is not the discussion of gender issues that I find fault with. It is a very
important discussion. I find fault with the hijacking of this forum for that
discussion and the subtle bashing of academia, graduate education, scientists,
the tenure system, women in science, men in scien
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lf Of Jane Shevtsov
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Let's not forget that the original comment that triggered this whole discussion
was made by a woman! I don't think it was intended to be sexist.
It's not sexist
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Jane Shevtsov
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To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
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Let's not forget that the original comment that triggered
Let's not forget that the original comment that triggered this whole
discussion was made by a woman! I don't think it was intended to be sexist.
It's not sexist to say, "In my experience, women tend to do X and would be
better off doing Y". It may be accurate or inaccurate, but it's not sexist.
Ja
The #1 issue is placeboundness.
If you are looking for a first job, or are unemployed you cannot
afford to put any restrictions on where you take that first position
(technically this applies to all, not just BS/MS grads).
I looked at Indeed.com and they show 52 new openings in GIS.
That is not act
As an unemployed individual with a Masters degree and 4.5 years of
daily work experience using ArcGIS (as well as numerous other types of
experience both in the field and office including state and federal
jobs), I am still having an extraordinarily difficult time finding a
job. Is there any advice
Dear all,
I was not at all offended by Dr. Olden's advice, and, as a matter of fact,
found it very sensible.
Thanks
Chandreyee
On Feb 18, 2013, at 13:40, "Leslie M. Adams" wrote:
> Now, I am the one who must speak up and voice my support for Yvette (and
> Chandreyee). While no slight may ha
Exactly! We are now all feeding the troll. Let's talk about best
strategies to be successful. I taught myself GIS after getting my PhD
(which is in economics btw) and was very willing to collaborate, rip
my writing to shreds and re-submit to end up with grant proposals that
would be funded (note t
Seems to me that you completely misunderstood Dr. Olden's e-mail, who (to
my understanding) just tried to help everyone to reject sexist comments
like the one originally posted.
I am not saying that this kind of comments should not
be publicly disapproved, and probably just moving them into the sp
Now, I am the one who must speak up and voice my support for Yvette (and
Chandreyee). While no slight may have been intended, as a female scientist I
too experienced the responses Yvette cites - and especially the one recently
posted by Dr. Olden - as belittling and dismissive. There is considerabl
I disagree with you. Universities have to make the choices that are best
for them. If spousal hires would be so detrimental as your examples
suggest, they would not do them, but reality is that they work well. In
the case I am talking about, the department got extra money for the
additional pos
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