Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-21 Thread Skylar Bayer
Hello all, I'm in my last year of my Ph.D. and I had moved up to Maine almost six years ago to work an ecology project that would specifically have me spend more time outdoors than what I was doing previously. While I was happier being outside more frequently for my research (my field seasons are

Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-21 Thread Yi-jun Xu
t: Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career That may be the case, David, but I can think of two factors that may alter it: 1. more and more ecologists spending all their time indoors in front of a computer screen rather than in nature 2. attitudes and pressures from dept. chairs/dean

[ECOLOG-L] Pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-21 Thread Alison Munson
Judith is correct. Ecologists spend much less time in the field than was the case a few decades ago; the screen is our main environment. Graduate students are the in the field for many researchers, who spend more and more time on administration (which has been downloaded to individuals), on gr

Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-21 Thread Olyssa Starry
I can see both sides of this argument: On the one hand, being confronted with ecological devastation via one's vocation can cause them to lose hope: http://bioscience.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2016/10/28/biosci.biw142.1.full?keytype=ref&ijkey=e8O5ibKwHqYn9qn On the other hand, being outside

Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-20 Thread Emily Moran
There is that… Plus, I suspect many of us, once we reach the position of PI, have to struggle not to feel guilty or torn when we are doing outdoor work that we aren’t inside writing papers and grants! It is easy to feel that we should be delegating most such tasks, even if we enjoy them, to ta

Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-20 Thread christina de jesus
Hello All, I've just joined the listserv and I greatly appreciate this kind of discussion. I'm a first year Ph.D student who constantly questions wether a Ph.D is the right choice. So it has been good to read the article and to hear from all of you! Cheers, Christina On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 4:4

Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-20 Thread leon
Howdy David and others, There’s a lot of evidence that green regions in urban areas bring a sense of calmness to many individuals. Unfortunately, as an academic, I am (and I am sure many others are) bogged down with administrative things and I don’t get to spend the time outside as I did in ear

Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-20 Thread Luis J. Villanueva
> I wonder whether ecologists, who may get to spend more time outside ("in nature"), are less susceptible to depression than researchers in other fields. Why? This seems to be based on an idea that nature cures all or that we all derive healing from nature. I spent tons of time in the field, it di

Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-20 Thread Asya Robertshaw
I have to agree with Judy. Spending time outdoors would have been beneficial for mental health if we were actually able to enjoy the nature. As a PhD student in plant ecology, I got to spend a lot of time in the forest during my field seasons. That time, however, primarily consisted of intense 10-1

Re: [ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-20 Thread Judith S. Weis
That may be the case, David, but I can think of two factors that may alter it: 1. more and more ecologists spending all their time indoors in front of a computer screen rather than in nature 2. attitudes and pressures from dept. chairs/deans etc. who may value molecular/cell biologists more highly

[ECOLOG-L] pressures of a scientific career

2016-11-19 Thread David Inouye
There's an interesting article in the latest issue of Nature about mental health issues for scientists facing career pressures: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v539/n7628/full/nj7628-319a.html I wonder whether ecologists, who may get to spend more time outside ("in nature"), are less susc