Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-29 Thread James J. Roper
W. Aney > Senior Wildlife Ecologist > Tigard, Oregon > > -Original Message- > From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James J. Roper > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:28 PM > To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU >

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-29 Thread Derek Hogan
>Exercising faith in and acting on a religious principle (pick one) is >subjecting it to a test. Consider one's life before application of the >treatment as a control. Data are taken by experiencing the effect of the >treatment in one's life. If Faith is tested in such ways then all tests of

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-28 Thread Neal Bryan
- From: "Vicky Hollenbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: Re: why scientists believe in evolution >A further comment on the post by Neal Bryan about the statement "There > *is* quite a body of supporting literature, misinterpre

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-28 Thread William Silvert
exist is taken as proof of her religious virtue. I find that hard to reconcile with the viewpoint expressed below. Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: "Neal Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Re: why scientists believe i

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-28 Thread Vicky Hollenbeck
>> evolution by testable hypotheses, and I apologize. However, the scientific >> evidence for evolution is convincing (I accept it), but is of course not >> incontrovertible. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "James J. Roper" <

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-28 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Brian?=
ous >than some of the alternatives. My argument strays from the disproof of >evolution by testable hypotheses, and I apologize. However, the scientific >evidence for evolution is convincing (I accept it), but is of course not >incontrovertible. > > > >- Original Message ---

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-28 Thread Neal Bryan
but is of course not incontrovertible. - Original Message - From: "James J. Roper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Re: why scientists believe in evolution >A comment on this question. > > I would draw to our attention that the

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-28 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Brian?=
As Jeff Stratford just pointed out to me, Barbara Forrest is a historian interested in evolutionary theory and its history (i.e., she is not an evolutionary biologist). Minor point, but I'm guessing the distinction is somewhat important to Barbara so I figured I owed it to her to point out my erro

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-28 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Brian?=
Carissa, Based on the particular kinds of questions you ask, it's fairly obvious to me that you've been reading lots of intelligent design propaganda (I can especially see the influences of Behe and Dembski in your questions). As someone who has been extremely interested and active in evolution

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-27 Thread Warren W. Aney
Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James J. Roper Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:28 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: why scientists believe in evolution A comment on this question. I would draw to our attention that the question "Why do scien

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-27 Thread James J. Roper
i'i at Manoa > > Hawai'i > > tel (808) 956 0781 > > fax (808) 956 3894 > > > > http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/rubinoffd/jaco.htm > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Robert Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Monday, Augu

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-27 Thread Christie Klimas
/rubinoffd/jaco.htm > > - Original Message - > From: Robert Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:06 am > Subject: Re: why scientists believe in evolution > To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > > > The answer is much simpler. The Theory of

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-27 Thread Johannes J L Roux
l Sciences University of Hawai'i at Manoa Hawai'i tel (808) 956 0781 fax (808) 956 3894 http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/rubinoffd/jaco.htm - Original Message - From: Robert Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:06 am Subject: Re: why scientists believe

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-27 Thread Robert Hamilton
The answer is much simpler. The Theory of Evolution explains those data. No other theory does. Someone wants to propose another theory to explain those data, I'd be all ears, but my ears are closed the "theories" that are nothing more than criticisms of other theories. Rob Hamilton "So easy it se

Re: why scientists believe in evolution

2007-08-27 Thread Russell Burke
Carissa: you've got quite a collection of concerns about evolution here, and you're asking a lot of readers to go thru them all and teach you a basic course in evolution. too bad you didn't have one already, then it would be possible to start this discussion at some point later than where it was i