Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-11-12 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
"No Spam Mapson" wrote: The OED cites the following use of metric as a noun: 1921 Proc. R. Soc. A. XCIX. 104 "In the non-Euclidean geometry of Riemann, the metric is defined by certain quantities ... >>> >>> A good example of bad usage: *what* metric, *what* q

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-11-09 Thread Neville X. Elliven
>>> The OED cites the following use of metric as a noun: >>> 1921 Proc. R. Soc. A. XCIX. 104 "In the non-Euclidean >>> geometry of Riemann, the metric is defined by certain quantities ... >> >> A good example of bad usage: *what* metric, *what* quantities? >> The reader sho

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-29 Thread Gordon D. Pusch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neville X. Elliven) writes: > Herman Rubin wrote: > >> The OED cites the following use of metric as a noun: >> 1921 Proc. R. Soc. A. XCIX. 104 "In the non-Euclidean >> geometry of Riemann, the metric is defined by certain quantities ... > > A good example o

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-29 Thread Neville X. Elliven
Herman Rubin wrote: >The OED cites the following use of metric as a noun: >1921 Proc. R. Soc. A. XCIX. 104 "In the non-Euclidean >geometry of Riemann, the metric is defined by certain quantities . . A good example of bad usage: *what* metric, *what* quantities? The reade

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-24 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
"Robert J. MacG. Dawson" wrote: > Actually, there *is* essentially one canonical metric function on > Riemannian geometry. In either model of absolute geometry there is, up > to a multiplicative constant, only one metric preserved by reflection. > In hyperbolic geometry, moreover, ther

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-24 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Emord Nila Palindrome wrote: > It is certainly bad usage, for the following reason: the phrase, > "the metric", implies that there is *one* metric function on > Riemannian geometry, which is false. This reason has nothing > to do with distance measure in general, as commonly understood, > or o

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-22 Thread Richard Wright
The phrase 'the metric' is being used here to signify the type of its class. This is perfectly ordinary usage, with no implication that there is only one member of the class. E.g. "The pen is mightier than the sword." On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 03:09:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neville X. Elliven) wro

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-22 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <9ogurt$d79tc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neville X. Elliven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Herman Rubin wrote: The OED cites the following use of metric as a noun: 1921 Proc. R. Soc. A. XCIX. 104 "In the non-Euclidean geometry of Riemann, the metric is defined by certain quantities .

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-21 Thread Neville X. Elliven
Herman Rubin wrote: >>>The OED cites the following use of metric as a noun: >>>1921 Proc. R. Soc. A. XCIX. 104 "In the non-Euclidean >>>geometry of Riemann, the metric is defined by certain quantities . . > >>A good example of bad usage: *what* metric, *what* quantities? >>The reader should not

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-10 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <9nh0a7$7brv4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neville X. Elliven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Richard Wright wrote: >>On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 04:33:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>(Neville X. Elliven) wrote: >>I don't feel that the practise (where the adjective takes the place >>of the adjective + noun) i

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-09 Thread Richard Wright
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 00:17:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neville X. Elliven) wrote: >Context? 1587 Fleming Contn. Holinshed III. 1379/1 At hir being in Cambridge . . thus did an academike write in praise of the forenamed earle. 1671 Milton P.R. iv. 277 Mellifluous streames that watered all the scho

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-09-09 Thread Neville X. Elliven
Richard Wright wrote: >On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 04:33:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >(Neville X. Elliven) wrote: > >I don't feel that the practise (where the adjective takes the place >of the adjective + noun) is regrettable. This is one of the ways by >which languages evolve into conciseness. Wrong, Wri

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-08-27 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
> As for the other examples, 'professional' as a noun was good enough > for Dickens. Milton (1671) uses 'academic' as a noun. And Shakespeare, "mechanical". -Robert Dawson = Instructions for joining and le

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-08-23 Thread Richard Wright
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 04:33:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neville X. Elliven) wrote: I don't feel that the practise (where the adjective takes the place of the adjective + noun) is regrettable. This is one of the ways by which languages evolve into conciseness. Anyway, it is a bit late to be regretti

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-08-23 Thread Dennis Roberts
i think some of the posts about what "metric" as a noun means are going a bit beyond reality and trying to inculcate nuances that just don't have to be sure, there is the metric system ... where the term metric is a specific adjective to system ... but, the KEY term there is system which does

definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-08-22 Thread Neville X. Elliven
Stephen Dubin wrote: >I often see (and use) the term "metric" as a particular kind of >measure. However, I have had difficulty in finding a clear definition. >This is made more difficult because of the more common use of >"metric" as an adjective denoting the system of measurement units. >Please

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-08-21 Thread Jerrold Zar
"Metric" as a noun is well established, though I sense that it's being used in this way more frequently than before. Check some dictionaries. A very good one online is http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary , which gives 3 definitions for the noun; the one you're referring to sounds like "2 : a

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-08-21 Thread Gordon D. Pusch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dubinse) writes: > I often see (and use) the term "metric" as a particular kind of > measure. However, I have had difficulty in finding a clear definition. > This is made more difficult because of the more common use of > "metric" as an adjective denoting the system of measurem

Re: definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-08-21 Thread Shizuhiko Nishisato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >I often see (and use) the term "metric" as a particular kind of >measure. However, I have had difficulty in finding a clear definition. >This is made more difficult because of the more common use of >"metric" as an adjective denoting the system of measurement units. >P

definition of " metric" as a noun

2001-08-21 Thread Dubinse
I often see (and use) the term "metric" as a particular kind of measure. However, I have had difficulty in finding a clear definition. This is made more difficult because of the more common use of "metric" as an adjective denoting the system of measurement units. Please tell me what I mean when I