Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-20 Thread dennis roberts
At 10:58 AM 4/20/01 -0500, jim clark wrote: > What does a t-distribution mean to a student who does not >know what a binomial distribution is and how to calculate the >probabilities, and who does not know what a normal distribution >is and how to obtain the probabilities? good question but, NO

Re: ARIMA forecasting using EViews

2001-04-20 Thread Dick Startz
This will happen if the drift term in the ARIMA is zero. Suppose we call the AR coefficient "rho". Then ten periods out the forecast of the change in the stock price is rho^10 times the current change in the stock price. Since probably have a small rho, rho^10 is approximately zero. -Dick Startz

Re: ANCOVA vs. sequential regression

2001-04-20 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:11:02 -0400, "William Levine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > A study was conducted to assess whether there were age differences in memory > for order independent of memory for items. Two preexisting groups (younger > and older adults - let's call this variable A) were tes

Re: ANCOVA vs. sequential regression

2001-04-20 Thread William B. Ware
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, William Levine wrote: > A study was conducted to assess whether there were age differences in memory > for order independent of memory for items. Two preexisting groups (younger > and older adults - let's call this variable A) were tested for memory for > order information (Y

Re: Statistical Notation

2001-04-20 Thread Christopher Tong
On 20 Apr 2001, Magill, Brett wrote: > Does anyone know of a resource that lists symbols often used in statistics > and probability. What I am looking for is something with the symbol, its > name, and some common uses. In particular, I would like web sources, but I > would be grateful for any su

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-20 Thread Christopher J. Mecklin
Jim, Dennis, list at large I like Jim's rationale for introducing the binomial first rather than the normal or t. I may try it next semester (too late this semester). He much more eloquently explained why we may not wish to jump straight to the t-test than I did. Chris At 10:58 AM 04/20/200

ANCOVA vs. sequential regression

2001-04-20 Thread William Levine
Here is a statistical issue that I have been pondering for a few weeks now, and I am hoping someone can help set me straight. A study was conducted to assess whether there were age differences in memory for order independent of memory for items. Two preexisting groups (younger and older adults -

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-20 Thread jim clark
Hi It has been a few years since teaching intro stats to psych students, but I too liked the sequence: binomial -> normal -> t-distribution ... The binomial allows students with basic probability skills to actually calculate the probabilities for a sampling distribution. This provides a solid

Statistical Notation

2001-04-20 Thread Magill, Brett
Does anyone know of a resource that lists symbols often used in statistics and probability. What I am looking for is something with the symbol, its name, and some common uses. In particular, I would like web sources, but I would be grateful for any suggestions. Best, Brett =

Introducing inference using the binomial (was: Student's t vs. z

2001-04-20 Thread Bruce Weaver
On 19 Apr 2001, Paul Swank wrote: > I agree. I normally start inference by using the binomial and then > then the normal approximation to the binomial for large n. It might be > best to begin all graduate students with nonparametric statistics > followed by linear models. Then we could get them

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-20 Thread Jon Cryer
I don't believe anyone has bothered to define what they mean by a z-test. There are two issues that must be dealt with: (1), What statistic is to be used and (2), what distribution is to be used to assess the size of that statistic. I contend that a z "statistic," viz., (Ybar-mu0)/(sigma/sqrt(n))

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-20 Thread dennis roberts
nice note mike >Impossible? No. Requiring a great deal of effort on the part of some >cluster of folks? Definitely! absolutely! >There is some discussion of this very possibility in Psychology, although >I've yet to see evidence of fruition. A very large part of the problem, >in my mind,

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-20 Thread Mike Granaas
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, dennis roberts wrote: > > what i would like to see .. which is probably impossible in general (and > has been discussed before) ... it a more integrated approach to data > collection ... WITHIN THE SAME COURSE OR A SEQUENCE OF COURSES ... so that > when you get to the ana

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-20 Thread dennis roberts
alan and others ... perhaps what my overall concern is ... and others have expressed this from time to time in varying ways ... is that 1. we tend to teach stat in a vacuum ... 2. and this is not good the problem this creates is a disconnect from the question development phase, the measure de

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-20 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
I wrote, suggesting that forthose with a little learning the Z test is a dangerous thing, and Rich Ulrich responded: > Mainly, I disagree. > > I had read 3 or 4 statistic books and used several stat programs > before I enrolled in graduate courses. One of the *big surprises* to > me was to l

No Subject

2001-04-20 Thread Hindley, Jane
Dear Eric, I'm writing my summer school course outline, and would like to know what the budget is for outside speakers before approaching anyone. The outline should be finished by the end of next week. best wishes, janeh application/ms-tnef