At 09:29 PM 4/26/01 -0500, Christopher Tong wrote:
>On 26 Apr 2001, dennis roberts wrote:
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> > i would put a different spin on this ... if students use the crib sheet
> > (which i let them have too) AND have to depend on it TO remember important
> > formulas/definitions ... then this works agains
each time you use your word processor, you get better AT using it AND its
features
same holds for a decent stat package
the more students practice with it, the better they get with it
and the instructor should help them in this
minitab for example, has tried in recent releases to enhance the amou
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Dennis: without going into chapter and verse,I think you are touching on sumpin
real. The excitement these days tends to be at interfaces between disciplines
not at the centers of old disciplines. Our academic departments were largely
defined in the 19th century--some have made the jump--astroph
On 26 Apr 2001, dennis roberts wrote:
> i would put a different spin on this ... if students use the crib sheet
> (which i let them have too) AND have to depend on it TO remember important
> formulas/definitions ... then this works against them since, they will then
> be spending time on "cons
A couple of comments.
When a student leaves college and is not in a position (job) where he/she has
to use statistical formulas every day formulas are quickly forgotten. What
we (at least I do) expect is that they understand the basic principles of the
subject and can formulate ideas regardin
Go Straight to http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/
Its exactly what you want. And a damn good job it is.
John
On 25 Apr 2001 09:39:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert J.
MacG. Dawson) wrote:
Can anybody out there who is teaching (or has recently taught) a
stats course at the first year
Jerry Dallal wrote:
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> Herman Rubin wrote:
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> > A p-value tells me nothing of importance.
>
> It's hard to resist the challenge, except I have to agree (if we
> qualify it by adding the word 'alone', that is, 'A p-value alone
> tells me nothing of importance.')
>
I give in to the challeng
Herman Rubin wrote:
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> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Alan McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >"Robert J. MacG. Dawson" wrote:
>
> >> > Alan McLean wrote:
> >> The p value is a direct measure of 'strength of evidence'.
>
> >> and Lise DeShea responded:
>
> ..
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At 10:16 AM 4/26/01 -0500, Herman Rubin wrote:
>A p-value tells me nothing of importance.
i agree if this means practical and of benefit say to society
> It is in no way
>a measure of strength of evidence.
are you saying p tells you nothing?
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Glen Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Giuseppe Andrea Paleologo wrote:
>> I am dealing with a simple conjecture. Given two generic positive random
>> variables, is it always true that the sum of the quantiles (for a given
>> value p) is greater or equal than th
Herman Rubin wrote:
> A p-value tells me nothing of importance.
It's hard to resist the challenge, except I have to agree (if we
qualify it by adding the word 'alone', that is, 'A p-value alone
tells me nothing of importance.')
=
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alan McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Robert J. MacG. Dawson" wrote:
>> > Alan McLean wrote:
>> The p value is a direct measure of 'strength of evidence'.
>> and Lise DeShea responded:
...
>There is certainly no con
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Lise DeShea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Alan McLean wrote:
>> ... In general, I emphasise the use of p values - in
>> many ways it is a more natural way than using critical values to carry
>> out a test. The p value is a direct measure of 'strength of evidence'.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Granaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been using "Statistics: Concepts and Controversies" by Moore for a
>couple of years now and have been happy with it. Lots of exercises that
>are of the form: "What do you think about this claim?"
If you want to teach
At 09:58 AM 4/26/01 -0500, Herman Rubin wrote:
>For the important part, it is ALWAYS appropriate. An
>argument against open book is that they spend too much
>time looking things up, but I always allow crib sheets.
>This way they know that they will get no credit for
>memorizing definitions and f
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert J. MacG. Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Paul W. Jeffries" wrote:
> What are
>> list members views on teaching students to use tables. In the computer
>> age, tables are an anachronism. T
On 24 Apr 2001, Mark W. Humphries wrote:
>> I concur. As I mentioned at the start of this thread, I am
"self-learning"
>> statistics from books. I have difficulty telling what is being taught as
>> necessary theoretical 'scaffolding' or 'superceded procedures', and what
one
>> would actually apply
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul W. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert Dawson said that one of his approaches to dealing with z test is to
>treat it as a historical anecdote. I like that approach and must give it
>a try.
It is almost the other way around. The z test comes up as
an
I don't believe that this is a generally
recognized technical term. I suppose that its use
is an attempt to avoid the word "null" in "null
hypothesis," which is what the writers mean. The
adjective "maintained" in this context corresponds
to the Russian "itberzhdati." (not sure of the
approved tra
some things in statistics one learns to understand as they gain experience
hands on ...
for example, one can over time ... become rather proficient in using some
software ... so as to easily do analysis for oneself ... or for helping others
some principles can be "learned" by doing ... for exa
Giuseppe Andrea Paleologo wrote:
>
> I am dealing with a simple conjecture. Given two generic positive random
> variables, is it always true that the sum of the quantiles (for a given
> value p) is greater or equal than the quantile of the sum?
>
> In other words, let X, Y be positive random var
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