Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16

2006-03-02 Thread Scott David Daniels
kirby urner wrote: > Why is Logo out of date? Use it for 3 classes (?) to set the stage, get > through with the turtle stuff, then turn to Python or something else. This > idea that we should pick just one language and use it for everything, > regardless, is to be avoided. That's not the real wo

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16

2006-03-02 Thread ajsiegel
> > And if Python educators feel that the Turtle approach is so > effective that > > it needs to be part of Python's core, at least make a very overt > nod to > > where the ideas are coming from. There are many people out of > touch with the > > history here. It is easy to assume that people c

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16

2006-03-02 Thread Toby Donaldson
> And if Python educators feel that the Turtle approach is so effective that > it needs to be part of Python's core, at least make a very overt nod to > where the ideas are coming from. There are many people out of touch with the > history here. It is easy to assume that people can identify Turtle

[Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

2006-03-02 Thread Arthur
kirby urner wrote: >>kirby urner >> >>Kirby - question 1. Do you understand why your messages are coming to me as >>html? Makes it difficult to reply in normal form. >> >> > >No, didn't realize. Using Google's gmail. How about this one? > > > Not sure, because I am now at a machine using

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16

2006-03-02 Thread kirby urner
> kirby urner > > Kirby - question 1. Do you understand why your messages are coming to me as > html? Makes it difficult to reply in normal form. No, didn't realize. Using Google's gmail. How about this one? When I check the edu-sig archive, my emails look OK. I'll see what I can do to fix th

[Edu-sig] PyLogo anyone?

2006-03-02 Thread Daniel Ajoy
I find strange that PyLogo hasn't been mention in this discussion: Daniel Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:16:56 -0600 From: Ian Bicking ianb at colorstudy.com Subject: ANN: PyLogo 0.1 PyLogo 0.1 == This is the first public release of the still rough (but I think functional) PyLogo in

Re: [Edu-sig] 3D Logo

2006-03-02 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 1 Mar 2006 at 21:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You mean with the -n switch? Why not just use some other language that's > better at Turtles than Python? is my main question. If you're going to use > Turtles as your primary pedagogy, I suggest Logo or some more sophisticated > 3D turtle imple

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16

2006-03-02 Thread Arthur
kirby urner Kirby - question 1. Do you understand why your messages are coming to me as html? Makes it difficult to reply in normal form. > I like spatial turtles, i.e. turtles that swim in XYZ, not just in XY. I played with doing that using