[Edu-sig] Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?

2009-04-07 Thread Lloyd Hugh Allen
I haven't posted in a while -- forgot to reply-to-edu-sig :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Lloyd Hugh Allen chandraki...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 09:26 Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] Do we teach computers when we write code? To: kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com As a math

Re: [Edu-sig] Progamming advice. (Was: Why MIT switched from Scheme to Python)

2009-04-07 Thread macquigg
Gary Pajer wrote: But to clarify: I've been programming in python for about six years, along the way abandoning Matlab in which I was a local go-to guy. By the way, I've also adopted Traits and the Enthought Tool Suite, which IMHO might possibly be the future of practical laboratory

Re: [Edu-sig] Progamming advice. (Was: Why MIT switched from Scheme to Python)

2009-04-07 Thread Gary Pajer
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote: In a message of Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:50:09 EDT, Gary Pajer writes: But to clarify: I've been programming in python for about six years, alo ng the way abandoning Matlab in which I was a local go-to guy. By the way, I've

Re: [Edu-sig] Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?

2009-04-07 Thread kirby urner
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Lloyd Hugh Allen chandraki...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't posted in a while -- forgot to reply-to-edu-sig :) I replied but to an earlier part of this thread -- I trust our human readers to make the connections. :) Kirby

[Edu-sig] Generating prime numbers

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:07 AM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: As my grandmother might have said:  ai yai yai http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081203103806AA4TSOq I'm guessing Kay (XY? XX? -- not that I need to know) is a LISP and/or Scheme head, by the looks of those

Re: [Edu-sig] Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Lloyd Hugh Allen chandraki...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't posted in a while -- forgot to reply-to-edu-sig :) There is a long-running rwar between those who think that mailing lists should have a reply-to set to the mailing list address, and those who think that

Re: [Edu-sig] Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?

2009-04-07 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:09:36 PDT, Edward Cherlin writes: There is a long-running rwar between those who think that mailing lists should have a reply-to set to the mailing list address, and those who think that replies should go to the previous sender by default. Is it worse that

[Edu-sig] Mail features (was Re: Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?)

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote: In a message of Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:09:36 PDT, Edward Cherlin writes: There is a long-running rwar between those who think that mailing lists should have a reply-to set to the mailing list address, and those who think that

Re: [Edu-sig] Mail features (was Re: Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?)

2009-04-07 Thread kirby urner
Gmail. No, source is not available. They do accept feature requests at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=suggestions.cs Once in a while I see that some feature I wanted made it in. Laura Of course the mail software can't help you remember when to change the subject line.

Re: [Edu-sig] Mail features (was Re: Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?)

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: Gmail. No, source is not available. They do accept feature requests at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=suggestions.cs Once in a while I see that some feature I wanted made it in. Laura Of course the

Re: [Edu-sig] Mail features (was Re: Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?)

2009-04-07 Thread kirby urner
Seems like you'd have to be able to pick out a list from all the others, which means persisting a list of lists, which may be more trouble than it's worth? You mean if the message is crossposted to multiple lists? Well then, I just use Reply to All. Oh I get it. I didn't remember that

Re: [Edu-sig] Progamming advice

2009-04-07 Thread David MacQuigg
At 09:35 AM 4/7/2009 -0400, Gary Pajer wrote: I am but a poor physicist and self-taught (out of necessity) programmer, aside from one course in FORTRAN in 1973. Until this discussion I was not at all familiar with the terms TDD, unittest, design pattern, class model, state model,

Re: [Edu-sig] Mail features (was Re: Fwd: Do we teach computers when we write code?)

2009-04-07 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:06:26 PDT, kirby urner writes: Seems like you'd have to be able to pick out a list from all the others, which means persisting a list of lists, which may be more trouble than it's worth? You mean if the message is crossposted to multiple lists? Well then, I

Re: [Edu-sig] Progamming advice

2009-04-07 Thread kirby urner
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:12 PM, David MacQuigg macqu...@ece.arizona.edu wrote: At 09:35 AM 4/7/2009 -0400, Gary Pajer wrote: SNIP Send me some examples of early versions of your programs, and I'll help make them into a sequence that will serve as good examples for students.  See the

[Edu-sig] pointers to Math Forum, Chipy list

2009-04-07 Thread kirby urner
FYI, I was prolific today, some might say prolix. Partly I'm just wanting to keep my wheelings and dealings in the open, in the spirit of open source. So... some lesson plans on math-teach @ Math Forum (Drexel University), precious little Python really, more about tone, context and perceptions

Re: [Edu-sig] Math in a Browser

2009-04-07 Thread Laura Creighton
Somebody wants something 'like matlab' but which is browser based and all runs in a browser. I know about http://www.livemath.com/lmplugin/ What else is out there? Laura ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org