Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-08-04 Thread horst knete
Hi, i wasn´t really that aware that this could only led to higher usage of CPU and RAM, but to say so, the cpu load has indeed increased by about 20-30% compared to not compressing the storage. The RAM usage didnt increase by a big deal. IMHO a bit higher CPU-load is definietly worth it, if yo

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-08-04 Thread Jörg Prante
You are aware of the fact the kind of search performance you mean depends on RAM and virtual memory organization of the cluster, not on storage, so "without any siginifcant performace losses" could be expected ? Jörg Am 04.08.14 12:41, schrieb horst knete: We are indexing all sort of events (W

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-08-04 Thread horst knete
We are indexing all sort of events (Windows, Linux, Apache, Netflow and so on...) and impact is defined in speed of the Kibana GUI / how long it takes to load 7 or 14 days of data. Thats what is important for my colleagues. Am Montag, 4. August 2014 10:52:25 UTC+2 schrieb Mark Walkom: > > What

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-08-04 Thread Mark Walkom
What sort of data are you indexing? When you said performance impact was minimal, how minimal and at what points are you seeing it? Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com web: www.campaignmonitor.com On 4 August 2014 16:43, horst knete wr

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-08-03 Thread horst knete
Hi again, a quick report regarding compression: we are using a 3-TB btrfs-volume with 32k block size now which reduced the amount of data from 3,2 TB to 1,1TB without any segnificant performance losses ( we are using a 8 CPU, 20 GB Memory machine with an iSCSI.Link to the volume ). So for us

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-07-20 Thread Patrick Proniewski
Hi, gzip/zlib compression is very bad for performance, so it can be interesting for closed indices, but for live data I would not recommend it. Also, you must know that: Compression using lz4 is already enabled into indices, ES/Lucene/Java usually read&write 4k blocks, -> hence, compression is

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-07-20 Thread horst knete
Hey guys, we have mounted an btrfs file system with the compression method "zlib" for testing purposes on our elasticsearchserver and copied one of the indices on the btrfs volume, unfortunately it had no success and still got the size of 50gb :/ I will further try it with other compression me

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-07-18 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Hi Horst, I wouldn't bother with this for the reasons Joerg mentioned, but should you try it anyway, I'd love to hear your findings/observations. Otis -- Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/ On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-07-16 Thread joergpra...@gmail.com
Ups, not true, Elasticsearch uses Lucene codec compression, and this is also LZ4 (LZF only for backwards compatibility) Here are some numbers: http://blog.jpountz.net/post/33247161884/efficient-compressed-stored-fields-with-lucene Jörg On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:28 PM, joergpra...@gmail.com < j

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-07-16 Thread joergpra...@gmail.com
You will not gain much advantage because ES already compresses data on disk with LZF, ZFS is using LZ4, which compression output is quite similar. In the file system statistics you will notice the compression ratio, and this will be no good value. So instead of having ZFS trying to compress where n

Re: Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-07-16 Thread Mark Walkom
There's a few previous threads on this topic in the archives, though I don't immediately recall seeing any performance metrics unfortunately. Regards, Mark Walkom Infrastructure Engineer Campaign Monitor email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com web: www.campaignmonitor.com On 16 July 2014 20:56, horst

Any experience with ES and Data Compressing Filesystems?

2014-07-16 Thread horst knete
Hey Guys, to save a lot of hard disk space, we are going to use an compression file system, which allows us transparent compression for the es-indices. (It seems like es-indices are very good compressable, got up to 65% compression-rate in some tests). Currently the indices are laying at a ext