Re: [Elecraft] NR & AGC

2009-04-07 Thread Merv Schweigert
Confirm this one also, I dont operate SSB but tuned in a couple stations to try it out and it will blow your ears off when you hit the NR button. Did not reload older software to see where it took place but its new on the last release or so. Merv KH7C > I can confirm this. I've heard it on str

Re: [Elecraft] NR & AGC

2009-04-07 Thread Joe Planisky
I can confirm this. I've heard it on strong SSB signals and it's easy to demonstrate with the XG2 signal generator set to the 50uV level. The more aggressive the NR setting, the louder the strong signals become. Using the XG2 and the K3's built in AFV meter, NR F1-1 gives a 3.1 dB boost

[Elecraft] NR & AGC

2009-04-07 Thread chen dave
hello all, Anyone try this: listening a S7 to S9 signal (SSB) on any band with your headphone, at this time, try to enable NR, you will hear a really LOUD audio! Maybe need firmware upgrade to fix it. 73s David BA4RF __ Elecr

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Inductive relay "kick"

2009-04-07 Thread Wes Stewart
There is a lesson here: before making any pronouncements, check Jack's website for the test results first. --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Jack Smith wrote: > From: Jack Smith > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Inductive relay "kick" > To: "Bill Coleman" > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, "WCØV" > Date: Tues

[Elecraft] [K2] Adding a Gas Discharge Tube a Benefit?

2009-04-07 Thread k7hbg @dslextreme.com
Hi all you K2 owners; In the ongoing effort to preserve and protect our SWR and Power bridge diodes, would the installation of a gas discharge tube between the antenna connector and ground as in the K3 be of any help in this battle? Regards, Bob K7HBG __

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Inductive relay "kick"

2009-04-07 Thread Jack Smith
Bill: Are you sure about this? A snubbing diode has to have fast turn on, but slower turn off is not as much of a concern. A while ago I looked at the turn on and turn off times for several diodes including the standard 1N4007 and found all sufficiently fast to work well as a relay snubbing

Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 antenna input

2009-04-07 Thread Bill Johnson
I have reported to Wayne that the Pre and Att memory goes across both the receivers. I thought they were independent. He has responded that it is under investigation. Perhaps this is the issue Jeff is bringing up. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Inductive relay "kick"

2009-04-07 Thread Bill Coleman
1N4007 diodes have a notoriously long switchover time. That's what makes them useful as a poor-man's PIN diode. They aren't quite so useful in back EMF suppression, though. If you use a fast diode, you should be able to keep the back EMF voltage down to the forward-bias voltage of the diode

Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 antenna input

2009-04-07 Thread jeff kb2m
Thanks for bringing up the attenuation issue with using ant1/ant2. Has anyone tried it both ways and have any comments? 73 Jeff kb2m - Original Message - From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: "'jeff kb2m'" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KRX3 antenna input > T

Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 antenna input

2009-04-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
There are couple of points to keep in mind if you don't use the AUX input and use ANT1/ANT2 for both sub receiver and main tx/rx. They're covered in the KRX3 manual, but in case you missed them: 1) You'll need well-isolated antennas to avoid RF tripping the COR in the antenna input used by the sub

[Elecraft] KRX3 antenna input

2009-04-07 Thread Ken Kopp
There's one ... at least ... condition where the BNC input jack and cable is useful. I bought the 2nd RX -only- to monitor 6M for band activity while I'm using the radio on other bands. The BNC allows me to connect a 6M GP to the 2nd RX. My ANT 2 connector is connected to the 6M beam. A tip:

Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 antenna input

2009-04-07 Thread K2MK
Hi Jeff: One possible problem is that if you were to accidentally press the ANT button you would transmit into your receive antenna. 73, Mike K2MK jeff kb2m Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:44:36 -0700 I spent the morning installing a sub rx in my K3 #1516. All is working well. I set it up using the KAT3

Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 antenna input

2009-04-07 Thread Gregory Fischer
The setup I use with an array solutions six pack remote switch is to have ANT1 and ANT2 both going to the six pack. This way I can mix and match any of my available antennas to optimize diversity receive. 73 Greg AB7R On Apr 7, 2009, at 3:44 PM, jeff kb2m wrote: > I spent the morning instal

[Elecraft] KRX3 antenna input

2009-04-07 Thread jeff kb2m
I spent the morning installing a sub rx in my K3 #1516. All is working well. I set it up using the KAT3 ant2 as input the the sub rx. Now I'm thinking that there is no advantage to doing it this way(other then me being too lazy to install the aux bnc connector). Does it really matter, is there

Re: [Elecraft] K3: N1MM beginner question

2009-04-07 Thread Dave Hachadorian
n1mm/config/ports/on K3 control com press "set" button/ uncheck "radio PTT via command." Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ - Original Message - From: "Erik N Basilier" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: N1MM beginner question > Configuration: > > Comput

Re: [Elecraft] K2: Sound when switching off k2 after installing KIO2

2009-04-07 Thread John
At 03:07 PM 07/04/09, you wrote: >I installed a KIO in my new k2. All works well, all tests with the >KIO installed passed without any problem. But: everytime when >switching off the K2 i hear a short sound (sounds like "tscherp") in >the speaker. With KIO removed, there is only a short klick at

[Elecraft] K3: N1MM beginner question

2009-04-07 Thread Erik N Basilier
Configuration: Computer serial port connected to K3, computer USB connected to Winkeyer, Winkeyer Key output connected to K3 Key In, No connection to K3 PTT in, CONFIG PTT-KEY OFF-OFF, QSK full, nothing connected to K3 ACC. Send CW message from N1MM: I want QSK but the TX LED stays on during

[Elecraft] K2: Sound when switching off k2 after installing KIO2

2009-04-07 Thread Michael van Hauten
I installed a KIO in my new k2. All works well, all tests with the KIO installed passed without any problem. But: everytime when switching off the K2 i hear a short sound (sounds like "tscherp") in the speaker. With KIO removed, there is only a short klick at power down. Is there a problem or i

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Mike Scott
>Fair-Rite has a quite high minimum order value, several hundred dollars as >I recall. OTOH Mouser stocks most of the 31 material you would likely find >useful including the 2.4 inch toroids and the monster snap-on. The Fair->Rite web site has all the technical info you will need to cross-referen

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Error message

2009-04-07 Thread K9ZTV
Michael . . . Your dissertation and chastisement not withstanding (I agree about the multitude of useless posts), the question was simply "what is this error message." The answer which Tom and others gave was likewise simply, "it's on page 67 of the manual." An entirely appropriate answer to

Re: [Elecraft] PR6 preamp fails to turn on reliably

2009-04-07 Thread Dave G4AON
Lance I almost always use an external 2nd receiver via the KXV3 RX RF in/out route that a pre-amp uses (via a ferrite splitter), mine is used on the lower HF bands but the principle is the same. I don't have any switching issues with the K3 and that external receive signal route. I do have an Advan

Re: [Elecraft] PSK 31

2009-04-07 Thread hb9ari
Ron, Serial connection is used for K3 control. You should connect the "LINE-OUT" at the rear of the K3 to the Line or Mic inp of your Sound Card (internal or external); this is the audio path for receiving PSK31; you should connect the Line-out or Spkr out of the the above sound card to the "IN-LI

Re: [Elecraft] K3 excessive bass

2009-04-07 Thread Jay Bromley
Thanks Paul, That makes a lot of sense and like I said I am not complaining one bit on the K3 audio. I main point I was trying to make was the K3 doesn't have excessive bass in stock form or from what I have seen in any form. I will send you my plots later, I have a QRP meeting tonight to get r

[Elecraft] PR6 preamp fails to turn on reliably

2009-04-07 Thread Lance Collister
I just returned from using my K3 for 6m EME down in E51 (you can see more information about the trip at http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/E51SIX.htm ). My question is that often the PR6 would not seem to "engage" at the beginning of an operating session. I could press the RX button and hear the

[Elecraft] K3 Error message

2009-04-07 Thread The Smiths
As always I'm in flabbergasted about how much useless stuff goes around this user group. Like 150 posts on an LED for the K3 or what headphones someone should use (subject BEATEN to DEATH) or what antenna to use (useful, but gets old after 400 posts) But when it comes to someone with a genuine

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Hi Chuck, It really helps if one knows the proper name for an item. In this case, toroid ain't it ;o) It's considered a bead. Not sure what the difference is, other than maybe thickness? The part in question is stocked by Mouser: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=P8bU7i9nNAWM

Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio

2009-04-07 Thread K9ZTV
Folks . . . The only way to determine whether the so-called hiss or other aberrations are endemic to the K3 is to limit the discussion to one common denominator, that being the stock K3 speaker which EVERYONE has, and not the plethora of speakers and headphones everyone tries to have. The K3 s

Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio

2009-04-07 Thread Darwin, Keith
I've stayed out of this thread and have only skimmed it but I'll weigh in a bit now. I have very good hearing. I listen to my K3 using high fidelity headphones only - I never use the speaker. I operate CW only. My rig sounds very good. I do have the Radio Shack level control in-line with my So

Re: [Elecraft] Mods/Addition suggestions for order of installplease

2009-04-07 Thread Matt Zilmer
That was about a Cadillac I think. You'll know it when you see it. :) I had a reasonable familiarity with the K3 before surgery. This helps a lot. All mods were a-ok and checked out, but this approach isn't for everyone. It was a long session to do that all at one pull. This is one of those y

Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio

2009-04-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jack, That may be the reason I do not hear any problem. My hearing aids do not have much response above 3.5 kHz. If I do not use the aids, my hearing drops off significantly above 1800 Hz although my low end hearing is about normal for the general population. Having 'built-in' low pass filt

Re: [Elecraft] Mods/Addition suggestions for order of installplease

2009-04-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Hi, I will throw my 2 pennies into this. The decision whether to do all-at-once or one-at-a-time should depend a lot on your confidence level and your individual skills. Ask yourself: "If something goes wrong, what is my ability to find and correct it?" If that ability is not high on your lis

[Elecraft] K3: Mic gain and ALC question

2009-04-07 Thread KC2UEE
Hello group, Working phone on 40m tonight, and noticed that I could only set mic gain to 3 before ALC maxed out on the K3’s meter. Is this normal? I’m using the stock Elecraft hand mic. 73, James K3JPS -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3%3A-Mic-gain-and-ALC-question-

[Elecraft] K3: Mic gain and ALC question

2009-04-07 Thread James Sarte
Hello group, Working phone on 40m tonight, and noticed that I could only set mic gain to 3 before ALC maxed out on the K3's meter. Is this normal? I'm using the stock Elecraft hand mic. 73, James K3JPS __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] Mods/Addition suggestions for order of installplease

2009-04-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Well, I think I was going to do all mine in one go because Matt had said he did them all. But my original thought was to do one at a time to be sure each was working. So I'll go back to the 1 piece at a time.. didn't Johnny Cash write a song about that? :-) -- I am told I talk in shorthand an

Re: [Elecraft] Mods/Addition suggestions for order of installplease

2009-04-07 Thread Matt Zilmer
I'm with Ron on this, although I did a set of 8 mods all at one sitting. K3 #24 started life as a K3/10 kit and over time I've nickel-and-dime loaded it up almost to maxed out configuration. It's been apart almost as much time as it's been sitting in the shack running. But probably no one beats

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Error message

2009-04-07 Thread Tom Hammond
Jim: As always, probably to look in your MANUAL! It's on page 67 of my (rev. D) Manual. In the Error Message list. 73, Tom N0SS At 15:56 04/06/2009, you wrote: >Whenever I turn on my K3 I see "ERR PL2" go across the screen then >everything else seems to come up fine. > >What is this error m

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Chuck - AE4CW
Fair-Rite has a quite high minimum order value, several hundred dollars as I recall. OTOH Mouser stocks most of the 31 material you would likely find useful including the 2.4 inch toroids and the monster snap-on. The Fair-Rite web site has all the technical info you will need to cross-referen

Re: [Elecraft] Mods/Addition suggestions for order of installplease

2009-04-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
...how many times do you want to strip down the rig with the risk that implies to fastener failure, static damage, scratches etc? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 However, the K3 was designed to be worked on easily! My K3 has been apart many, many times, som

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Julius Fazekas
Hi Svend, They don't list them, and I suspect the ones they purchased are for their Balun/Unun products. I'm going to contact Fair Rite directly... Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party: Sunday, 6 Sept 2009 http://www.tnqp.org/ El

Re: [Elecraft] My K3's hissy and noisy audio

2009-04-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> The K3 apparently has the same sort of energy on its audio > output, but because it is so many dB down, when the news > broke it was dismissed as a non-issue. There are several issues here that cloud the discussion. The K3 uses different audio amplifiers for the speakers and headphones.

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Svend Spanget
Julius wrote: > Jim, ask for a quote from whom? WX0B or Fair-Rite? Perhaps http://www.arraysolutions.com/ [http://www.arraysolutions.com/] ? 73, Svend OZ7UV TDC Bredbånd for 0 kr. - Spar 695 kr. Se http://tdc.dk/freemailtilbud/ Den

Re: [Elecraft] Explanation why Thailand bans hf transceivers with 6 m capability: military use of 6 m

2009-04-07 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Hi Brett, I would think for Elecraft, it's the economy of scale. How many sales are they losing versus the effectiveness of providing a modified radio? I suspect not enough to make it worth the effort. Consider the RoHS issues they had to resolve to go into the EU market... Government/Militar

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Hissy and Noisy Audio

2009-04-07 Thread Paul Gates
At present I do not have a K3. I do have an old Tentec 580 Delta and a Icom 703 plus, KX1. The enclosed speakers in both rigs perform nicely. However, I use a ADCOM digital Speaker on both rigs and it makes a big difference. I have had a lot of rigs like Drake, Swan Etc, If the speaker was in t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Hissy and Noisy Audio

2009-04-07 Thread Paul Christensen
> 1 and 2. On the line output I see a little less bass than the other > outputs > and I would expect this since it has a transformer in line that the > speaker > and phone output doesn't. In fact I don't see a change if I go crazy > boosting RX RQ bands 1 and 2. Jay, Here are my SpectraPlus FFT

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Thanks to all for the replies... Didn't quite get an answer to the -J versus -31, but still useful. Jim, ask for a quote from whom? WX0B or Fair-Rite? Cheers, Julius On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:03:50 -0400, Jack Smith wrote: >You might wish to experiment with Steward mix 35 or 40 toroids. Mix 35

Re: [Elecraft] Explanation why Thailand bans hf transceivers with 6 m capability: military use of 6 m

2009-04-07 Thread VR2BrettGraham
The discussion in this thread completely misses the point: there are administrations who do not allow people to be in possession of radio equipment capable of operating on frequencies those people aren't allowed to use. This is probably more common in Asia now than anywhere else. Singapore is one

Re: [Elecraft] My K3's hissy and noisy audio

2009-04-07 Thread Paul Christensen
> On the other hand, plug a Heil ProSet with its 200 Ohm elements > into an unmodified K3 and the -3dB point is 80 Hz ... low enough > for communications use without being overly sensitive to hum and > other low frequency noise... That would be a good choice for the stock K3. One thing to note i

Re: [Elecraft] My K3's hissy and noisy audio

2009-04-07 Thread Bill Tippett
VR2BG wrote: >The K3 apparently has the same sort of energy on its audio output, but because it is so many dB down, when the news broke it was dismissed as a non-issue. >Some folks have better hearing than others. Reproduction of the sound can also vary due to differences in speakers & headpho

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Hissy and Noisy Audio

2009-04-07 Thread Jay Bromley
Hi Joe, You wrote: >> > Please NO! I already run RX Audio bands 1 and 2 at -16 dB to >> > eliminate excessive bass - no more bass, please! You also wrote: > You won't see much on the headphone output because of the 10 uF > coupling capacitors. The effect is quite obvious on both the > speaker ou

[Elecraft] K3 Error message

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Allbright
Jim W4TE In revision D2 of the Owner's Manual Jan 1 2009, page 67 Error Message List, it explains ERR PL1/2 and corrective action. 73 Rob, G3RCE K2 #5219 and K3 #2855 (Whenever I turn on my K3 I see "ERR PL2" go across the screen then everything else seems to come up fine. What is this err

Re: [Elecraft] My K3's hissy and noisy audio

2009-04-07 Thread Bryan, ZL1NI
Using Heil ProSet here and very satisfied with the K3's audio for communications use. Bryan, Zl1NI > > On the other hand, plug a Heil ProSet with its 200 Ohm elements > into an unmodified K3 and the -3dB point is 80 Hz ... low enough > for communications use without being overly sensitive to hum

Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio

2009-04-07 Thread Maarten van Rossum
Oeps, forgot to take out the typo´s, pressed the send button to soon. Sorry about that. 2009/4/7 Maarten van Rossum > Yes, that is great service! > > I was not aware the my question on the reflector would stir thing up the > way it dit. I´m not verry technical and I thought I had some setting

Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio

2009-04-07 Thread Maarten van Rossum
Yes, that is great service! I was not aware the my question on the reflector would stir thing up the way it dit. I´m not verry technical and I thought I had some setting messed up with my K3 which resulted in the bad audio. Given all the great response on the reflector I´m kind of lost in all the

Re: [Elecraft] My K3's hissy and noisy audio

2009-04-07 Thread VR2BrettGraham
This discussion reminds me of how fatiguing I found the TS-950S to use. I could not do a contest without getting a splitting headache. The K2 helped me figure out why, one day after yet again mucking about with BFO settings & dealing with lumpy/bumpy filter passband & impossible quest to reasonab

Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio

2009-04-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Now, you name any other manufacture which would offer that - and direct from one of the owners of the company. Is that service, or is that SERVICE? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- If you're sending someone some Styrofoam, what do you pack it in? On 6 Apr 2009, at 18:26, wayne burdick wrote: > Maarte