Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Bill Frantz
Don makes an excellent point. I started with a minimal K3 and built it out "under the XYL's radar", enjoying it every step of the upgrade path. The second receiver was the killer upgrade for trying to work DX with big pileups. (I already had the P3.) The other big advantage of the modular ap

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
w0mu wrote > What happens when you turn the AGC off and ride the rf gain? Do these > setting still have some effect or should they be set up differently?I > assume when you use 12/8/soft most people are using AGC-F? Ken, When you experienced the mush, did you have the AGC ON, but the RF Gain set

[Elecraft] Building a K2, a lot of fun

2017-02-23 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I was itching to build another kit so I picked up a K2 kit; It's been enjoyable to see it take shape over the past few weeks. I even wound up ordering a bunch of the options so I can stretch out the building process a bit more. I had forgotten how nice of a Kit the K2 was (I built my last one

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
If I recall the 100w PA switches on when you go over 10w From: "j...@kk9a.com" To: Jim Miller Cc: Elecraft Reflector ; jtmille...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3 Maybe so. I think it would be nice if

[Elecraft] PX3 firmware version 1.48 now available for download

2017-02-23 Thread n6hz
PX3 firmware revision 1.48 is now available for download as a general release using the PX3 Utility. This version is essentially the previous beta 1.45 along with a few minor fixes and one additional feature. There is a new version of the PX3 Programmer's Reference (rev A6) as well a new errata (

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread john
Maybe so. I think it would be nice if you could control when the 100w PA switches on or perhaps just have it one all of the time. John KK9A On 2017-02-23 09:50, Jim Miller wrote: > I'll take a guess. > > All transmitters have multiple stages to get to 100-200 watts. Tapping off > the 10w st

Re: [Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10

2017-02-23 Thread Bill W4ZV
Running DC input voltage close to the specified limit of 15.0 V will improve IMD. Perhaps the results you posted were with lower input voltage. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/High-Tx-IMD-with-new-K3s-10-tp7627317p7627318.html Sent from th

[Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10

2017-02-23 Thread Benny Aumala
The only measurements I have seen are from N0CU: 1W-36dB 4W-31dB 4,5W-33dB 6W-34dB 8W-25dB 10W-21dB Several anwers said this IS NOT normal. Are there measures which ARE normal? I am looking for a midway 4...6W values to feed kW amplifier withou

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The hardware AGC engages at about -45 (S9 + 20 dB). That is most certainly the final flattening you are seeing in the transfer characteristic. Otherwise the slope for each slp setting will generate roughly parallel transfer curves from the threshold point (witness the parallel curves for all of

[Elecraft] K3 Options - Was Product Idea

2017-02-23 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I like that the K3 is modular so I buy the options I want (though it seems like I want all of them eventually). I came pretty close to buying a second K3 and keeping it at 10 watts for use with Transverters (may still happen someday). I'd like to see Elecraft update their Transverters to matc

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Edward R Cole
I originally purchased a K3/10 which limits output at 12w (how linear?). Then a year ago I bought the KXPA100 which drives to 100w with about 5w which is 42% of max output and should be much more linear out of the K3. I haven't determined the drive required for 25w output from the KXPA100 but

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread Cady, Fred
http://www.ke7x.com/home/miscellaneous-k3-information/agc-4-51 The transfer characteristic is pretty linear from an input signal of nearly -120 dBm to about -45 dBm with AGC off. Signals above that are being clipped by some other non-linear process, probably the hardware AGC.I don't remem

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
That's surprising. The most I need its 20 watts to get 500 watts out From: Jim Miller To: donw...@embarqmail.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector ; "j...@kk9a.com" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3 And 25w isn't suffi

Re: [Elecraft] Pictures of LowePro CS60 babe with KX2 and gear

2017-02-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
On Feb 23, 2017, at 5:11 AM, Carter Craigie wrote: > New owner here of an Elecraft KX2. > I would enjoy seeing any pictures of the LowePro CS60 (the larger of the two > suggested bags) all packed and ready to go, including the rig, paddles, > antenna connection and two 25'-long ant and gnd wir

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
That is correct. While typically in the 25-35 W range, It can require up to the low 40 W range in some cases. Eric /elecraft.com/ On 2/23/2017 6:59 AM, Jim Miller wrote: And 25w isn't sufficient to drive the KPA to full power on all bands. jim ab3cv On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Don Wilhe

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread w7aqk
I think this issue of distortion when driving amps at near their limit was highlighted early on by a change Elecraft made on the K3. Initially the K3 could be dialed up to 110 watts. However, IMD got pretty rough at that level. So, Elecraft dropped the maximum down to just 100 watts, and the

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 front panel lettering disappearing

2017-02-23 Thread Stephen Prior
Just by way of an update to the screen printing disappearing, the UK dealer is going to replace the front panel of the KX2 for me. 73 Stephen, G4SJP On 20 February 2017 at 05:30, Augie "Gus" Hansen wrote: > > On 2/19/2017 1:42 PM, Stephen Prior wrote: > >> Before I take this up with the UK agen

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
What happens when you turn the AGC off and ride the rf gain? Do these setting still have some effect or should they be set up differently? I assume when you use 12/8/soft most people are using AGC-F? On 2/22/2017 1:54 PM, Irma Linas wrote: Hi everybody, Following the advice in one of the po

Re: [Elecraft] Slope Macro Settings

2017-02-23 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Dan, You can go into the AGC SLP menu and then do a sequence of UP; and DN; commands to arrive at your final value. The strategy for these types of macros is to drive the parameter to one end, e.g. 15 UP; commands set SLP=15 and then 5 DN; changes it back to 10, if that's the value you want

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread Cady, Fred
Perhaps what I should have said is that the slope of the gain curve for a given value of SLP changes as THR gets higher. See the curve at http://www.ke7x.com/home/miscellaneous-k3-information/agc-4-51 As you can see, when THR is 20, the curve for SLP=15, SLP=7, and SLP=0 are virtually identica

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Jim Miller
And 25w isn't sufficient to drive the KPA to full power on all bands. jim ab3cv On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > John, > > Historically, Elecraft has always offered options - on the premise that > "if you don't need/want it, you don't have to buy it". > As a result, the KPA

Re: [Elecraft] Software updates

2017-02-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ted, There already is a difference. K3 Utility figures out which you have and loads the matching firmware when there is a difference. It should be seamless whether you have a K3 or K3S. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/23/2017 9:51 AM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote: As I read of updates -- and one specificall

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, Historically, Elecraft has always offered options - on the premise that "if you don't need/want it, you don't have to buy it". As a result, the KPA3, KAT3, Bandpass filters for general coverage, 2nd receiver, DVR, extra roofing filters are optional. For instance, those who want a transc

[Elecraft] Software updates

2017-02-23 Thread Ted Edwards W3TB
As I read of updates -- and one specifically saying K3S -- is there going to be a difference coming between what applies to K3S and the K3 itself? Thanks! -- 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW and thinking about operating CW: "Do today what others won't, so you can do tomorrow what others can't.

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Jim Miller
I'll take a guess. All transmitters have multiple stages to get to 100-200 watts. Tapping off the 10w stage was easy to do and makes a nice QRP rig. I used my K3 for several years as QRP only before getting the 100w amp and eventually the KPA/KAT combo. jim ab3cv On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:32 AM,

Re: [Elecraft] New Firmware (k3fw5r57) Causes Odd Sound

2017-02-23 Thread ke9uw
I set the TX GATE to ON 10 and the complaints have been eliminated...although one fellow is still straining to hear something. I have always had the TX GATE set to OFF 0 and have over the years gotten complaints of almost imperceptible "ghosts on the audio", and then this "tiny rattle". Maybe I alw

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread j...@kk9a.com
I am a little late to the Elecraft party, why does this transceiver use a separate 100 watt module instead of just having a 100 to 200 watt transmitter like other manufactures? John KK9A Harry Yingst Seeing how the KPA- 500 tends to need less than 25 watts to drive it to full output (500 watts)

[Elecraft] Pictures of LowePro CS60 babe with KX2 and gear

2017-02-23 Thread Carter Craigie
New owner here of an Elecraft KX2. I would enjoy seeing any pictures of the LowePro CS60 (the larger of the two suggested bags) all packed and ready to go, including the rig, paddles, antenna connection and two 25'-long ant and gnd wires, extra battery, and earphones or earbuds. And what do the

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread briancom
Have you done the RF exposure calcs? I have the same issues. It turns out that on all HF bands, it is difficult to exceed the limits at 100 watts. Just 5 to 10 ft from the antenna provides enough distance. 73 de Brian K3KO Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2017, at 10:06 PM, Aaron Lee wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Erlend Grimseid
+1 on this. ~25w, (optional) built in battery pack and tuner. Integration with the KX2 ,KX3 and maybe the K2 and K3(S) for automatic band changing and so on. That would be awesome. 73 LA4TTA Erlend 2017-02-23 10:40 GMT+01:00 Myron Schaffer : > In keeping with my purchasing habits (I own the K1/2

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Myron Schaffer
In keeping with my purchasing habits (I own the K1/2 and KX line) I'd rather see a compact, efficient, external, 1 W in /25W out (14dB) packer type amp offered to compliment my very versatile station. Just saying. 72 Myron WVØH Printed on Recycled Data > On Feb 23, 2017, at 1:00 AM, Rick WA6NHC

Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea - 25 Watt PA for the K3

2017-02-23 Thread Rick WA6NHC
Excellent replies so far. What we start with is a ten watt radio. We add the KPA3, which provides a jump in output by 10 db. We can add the KPA500 which provides another ~12 db; because you're now loafing the KPA3, keeping linearity 'manageable'. (Yes, you can push the KPA500 to 600 watts o