At 11:16 PM 06/30/08, Tom Childers, N5GE wrote:
CW-swing is related to music.
No it isn't. It's related a person with a poor fist that cannot control the
length of the dashes to match the dots they are sending. It has nothing to do
with music; It has to do with reliable communication. I
Thom LaCosta wrote:
At 11:16 PM 06/30/08, Tom Childers, N5GE wrote:
CW-swing is related to music.
No it isn't. It's related a person with a poor fist that cannot
control the
length of the dashes to match the dots they are sending. It has
nothing to do
with music; It has to do with
At 04:46 AM 07/01/08, john petters wrote:
As pro Swing drummer I would say its a pity there is not a bit more
swing to many of the CW stations I copy. Many straight and bug
operators were recognisable by their 'fist'. Too many today use
keyers that are set too fast or have no rhythmic sense
John, old chap . . .
While agreeing completely with you about idiots running characters
together, I disagree completely with you about pitying the lack of fist
swings. CW is not music. It is not amenable to individual
interpretation. It is the very antithesis of what you are proposing. I
--- john petters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thom LaCosta wrote:
At 11:16 PM 06/30/08, Tom Childers, N5GE wrote:
CW-swing is related to music.
No it isn't. It's related a person with a poor
fist that cannot
control the
length of the dashes to match the dots they are
sending.
, 2008 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: OT [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
Thom LaCosta wrote:
At 11:16 PM 06/30/08, Tom Childers, N5GE wrote:
CW-swing is related to music.
No it isn't. It's related a person with a poor fist that cannot control
the
length of the dashes to match the dots
a dose of Benny Goodman! Now there's
some swing with which I can really relax!
Dave W7AQK
- Original Message -
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[Elecraft]' elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
Well
-Original Message-
In my view, the so called bug swing is anything but nice! Why
anyone would try to send anything but correctly formed code characters
is beyond me!
Dave W7AQK
Imagine a world where nobody spoke into the mic. Instead, rigs had
computer
CW-swing is related to music. Timing is so important.
Ella Fitzgerald and Frank Sinatra are still famous for their timing.
A 1-2-3-4 march has a steady beat. But have you ever heard the Saint
Louis Blues March?
Lots of examples...
73
Arie PA3A
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:02:38 +0200, Arie Kleingeld PA3A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
CW-swing is related to music.
No it isn't. It's related a person with a poor fist that cannot control the
length of the dashes to match the dots they are sending. It has nothing to do
with music; It has to do with
Well, Arni, this is a case where mileages *do* vary. I, for one, find a
reasonable amount of swing improves copy and reduces fatigue. But, then,
I've been listening to it from both commercial and amateur operators for
over half a century now...
An awful to of good traffic was handled long before
27, 2008 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:34:23 -0600, Bill W5WVO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set
dash/dot ratio to a number less than or greater than 3.0
(where 3.0 is the default standard -- i.e
! Why anyone would try to send anything but correctly
formed code characters is beyond me!
Dave W7AQK
- Original Message -
From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [Elecraft] elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature
AC7AC
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:19 AM
To: [Elecraft]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
Well, lots of replies, both public and private. By overwhelming
preponderance
I'm a fan of GHD bugs (currently using a dual lever GN107WS), and
recently noticed that they offer an electronic keyer with what they
call E-Bug mode. I wasn't sure what to make of it but the ablility
to record even straight key messages seemed interesting.
I must confess that I don't mind
, June 28, 2008 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
You'll find lots of support too, Bill. Just not so vocal
here, I guess.
A long time ago I suggested a bug mode in the Elecraft
keyers. That would
provide automatic dits like a bug but manual dashes: as long
as the dash
, 2008 1:28 PM
To: [Elecraft]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
I'm a fan of GHD bugs (currently using a dual lever GN107WS),
and recently noticed that they offer an electronic keyer with
what they call E-Bug mode. I wasn't sure what to make of it
but the ablility to record
I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set dash/dot ratio to a
number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the default standard --
i.e., the dash is three times the length of the dot). After experimenting, I
set mine to 3.7, which gave the transmitted CW a nice little
Bill W5WVO wrote:
I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set dash/dot
ratio to a number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the
default standard -- i.e., the dash is three times the length of the
dot). After experimenting, I set mine to 3.7, which gave the
transmitted CW a
Well, gee, I can get those effects on my K3, even long telegraphic dashes
for zeros!
I just use my Bug to key the rig!
Any time we turn over to machines or technology the chore of doing
something, we are subservient to a fierce dictator of our own making. The
machine will always do what it
Ron,
I have paralleled both an N3ZN and Begali signature to key my K2's. I bit
expensive for keying SSB transmit, but I think very impressive if not
overkill. Can't wait to do the same for the K3 on the order list. Maybe
I'll use just one. And move the only the Begali to the K3?! A bit
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:34:23 -0600, Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set dash/dot ratio to a
number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the default standard --
i.e., the dash is three times the length of the dot). After
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