Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-10 Thread Kevin Stover, AC0H
The difference is Data A mode. In Data A mode ALC action doesn't start until the fifth bar is lit AFAIK it's been that way from the beginning. With Elecraft rigs you don't control power out by adjusting audio level. Adjust your sound card line out to 50%, or less, adjust your software to 50%

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> So 5 to 7 bars seem to be indicated. Where does the '4 solid, fifth > flashing come from'? As explained by Wayne and Lyle several years ago, in data modes the ALC meter scale is shifted so that any display below four bars shows *audio input level* below the nominal operating point (whatever

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wes, That information comes from the DSP designer who has on several occassions stated that the onset of ALC is at the 5th bar. He has indicated that from the time of K3 Firmware Field Test. Why that information is not in the K3 and K3S manuals is a mystery to me. It is present in the KX3

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-08 Thread Wes Stewart
I am often puzzled by some of this advice. The K3S manual on page 30 says among other things: "While speaking into the microphone in a normal voice, adjust MIC for a peak ALC meter indication of about 5-7 bars (see below)". Then regarding audio data modes it says on page 34: "If you’re using

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bret, This is a condition we call "Power Hunting", and it usually indicates that you do not have the audio level set correctly for Elecraft transceivers. Are you driving the audio to illuminate 4 bars on the K3S ALC meter with the 5th bar flashing? You must operate Elecraft gear

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-08 Thread MaverickNH
Adjusting power still has me stymied. Oddly, once set and TXing WSJT-X FT8 15sec cycles, it creeps up from 180-200W on the KPA500 readout towards 270W. The P3TXMON reads lower but creeps up over 200W on successive TX cycles as well. I moved my components around as suggested so the TX feed is now

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-05 Thread Charles
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread David Bunte
s Jessee N4SRN > > > -- Original Message -- > > *From: *David Bunte > *To: *Charles Bret Jessee > *Cc: *elecraft@mailman.qth.net > *Sent: *September 4, 2017 at 12:36 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power > > Bret - >

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread Charles
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread Bill Frantz
Of course Bob meant when the tuner is located at the transmitter. When the tuner/matching network is located at the antenna feed point, the SWR of the line changes and so do the line losses. 73 Bill AE6JV On 9/4/17 at 9:43 AM, rmcg...@blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX) wrote: I rather deal with

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/4/2017 9:43 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: I rather deal with a bit of SWR.  The loss in the line due to any amount of SWR on the line does not change with the use of a tuner. There's another important issue that K6XX (engineer at Elecraft) alerted me to. The distortion in an output stage

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I wholly agree.  Every tuner placed in line has loss, two have twice or more the loss.  I rather deal with a bit of SWR.  The loss in the line due to any  amount of SWR on the line does not change with the use of a tuner. Of course the tuner makes the radio and its operator seem more

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread David Bunte
Bret - W6FB - Jack, was spot on with his information regarding the differing readings... but I have an added question. If your SGC-235 gives an acceptable match, then why use the KAT500 at all? I think that it is seldom a good idea to use two antenna tuners in series... at least that has been my

Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread Charles
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread Jack Brindle
The three units are taking widely different measurements. The KPA500 measures the signals it sees going into the KAT500, while the KAT500 measures what it sees going into the choke. Finally, the P3TXMON’s coupler measures what it sees going into the coax going to the SG-235. It is quite probable

[Elecraft] [KPA500] K3S/KPA500/KAT500 - Adjusting TX Power

2017-09-04 Thread MaverickNH
I'm learning about a new KPA500/KAT500 installed with my K3S. When I have the K3S power knob set, in this case, to show 420-440W peak-hold as read on the KPA500 LED screen, I see the KPA500 SWR showing 1-3 LEDs lit (it may stay at 1 LED or climb from 1 to 3 LEDs over 15sec TX, always below 1.5),