Re: *** SPAM *** Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-14 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedsy
Hi Vic, You wrote: Your solution of adding a second BFO just for receiving would theoretically work, except that you would need to use the 'real' sidetone pitch for zero-beating. Quite right, and I am sorry if I was not clear about the zero-beating issue. Had better tie the ribbons on this

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedsy
On November 13, 2005 at 02:54 am, Darrell VA7TO - VE7CLA wrote: I too prefer a higher pitched tone. I guess that is because I learned the code with a 1000 Hz tone or perhaps too many years of 1004 Hz test tones at the telco. Too bad the K2 will only go up to 800 Hz. Perhaps Eric and Wayne,

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Chuck Guenther
This subject has been discussed on the TenTec reflector, too. I tend to agree with K2VCO's ideas concerning the ear's ability to discern slight differences in pitch better at low frequencies. Bill Tippett, W4ZV, really got my attention when he divulged that he uses very low pitches (below 300

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Gregg R. Lengling
AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what? This subject has been discussed on the TenTec reflector, too. I tend to agree with K2VCO's ideas concerning the ear's ability to discern slight differences in pitch better at low frequencies. Bill Tippett, W4ZV, really got my

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Bill Coleman
On Nov 12, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Karsten Eppert(DK4AS) wrote: I am in doubt about the optimum CW-pitch. I think I remember from the old days, that the human ear has the best built in filter around 1000 Hz, so I thought, CW-crystal filters should have a pitch around 1000 Hz. Many commercial

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Vic K2VCO
Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedsy wrote: Perhaps the enhancement could be a BFO that is adjusted by a front panel control? Hi Geoff! This would be nice, and I presume that you mean that the knob would maintain the location of the BFO in relation to the passband along with the sidetone pitch.

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Paul Heller
Perhaps the enhancement could be a BFO that is adjusted by a front panel control? This would be nice, and I presume that you mean that the knob would maintain the location of the BFO in relation to the passband along with the sidetone pitch. Currently it's possible to adjust the pitch

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread L. D. Ingram
Perhaps the enhancement could be a BFO that is adjusted by a front panel control? This would be nice, and I presume that you mean that the knob would maintain the location of the BFO in relation to the passband along with the sidetone pitch. Currently it's possible to adjust the pitch from

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedsy
Hi Vic, Paul, Not quite Vic. The BFO knob would control the frequency of a BFO thus establishing the frequency difference between the BFO and a desired signal in the receiver passband, as done in receivers for decades.Its output is fed only to the product detector when in use. So the knob

RE: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul and all, Not that I am advocating it --- but the center of the CW filters is not directly coupled to the sidetone pitch by the K2 firmware, so the CW filters can be centered most anywhere. It is quite possible to peak the CW filters at 1000 Hz (as long as you do not run out of BFO range.

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedsy
Good Evening Don, The thoughts that I have had about a variable frequency BFO controlled from the front panel come from the requirement to be able to change the beat note of an incoming signal very quickly, such as one might want to do more than once during a pile up. Under such circumstances

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-13 Thread Vic K2VCO
Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedsy wrote: Not quite Vic. The BFO knob would control the frequency of a BFO thus establishing the frequency difference between the BFO and a desired signal in the receiver passband, as done in receivers for decades.Its output is fed only to the product detector when

[Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-12 Thread Karsten Eppert(DK4AS)
Hi everybody, my K2 is #4764. I am in doubt about the optimum CW-pitch. I think I remember from the old days, that the human ear has the best built in filter around 1000 Hz, so I thought, CW-crystal filters should have a pitch around 1000 Hz. Many commercial units seem to have 800 Hz, the

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-12 Thread Vic K2VCO
Karsten Eppert(DK4AS) wrote: I am in doubt about the optimum CW-pitch. I think I remember from the old days, that the human ear has the best built in filter around 1000 Hz, so I thought, CW-crystal filters should have a pitch around 1000 Hz. Many commercial units seem to have 800 Hz, the

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-12 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Vic, Although that isn't strictly the BFO setting, if you center the wider filters around the CW pitch and it is too low, won't their skirts extend below 0Hz and pass the opposite sideband? Leigh / WA5ZNU On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 8:11 am, Vic K2VCO wrote: The IF selectivity is the same

RE: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Leigh, WA5ZNU asked: Although that isn't strictly the BFO setting, if you center the wider filters around the CW pitch and it is too low, won't their skirts extend below 0Hz and pass the opposite sideband? -- True, but that's not a selectivity issue. A 2 KHz

Re: [Elecraft] CW-Pitch 600 Hz or 700 Hz or what?

2005-11-12 Thread Darrell Bellerive
On November 12, 2005 07:50 am, Karsten Eppert(DK4AS) wrote: I am in doubt about the optimum CW-pitch. I think I remember from the old days, that the human ear has the best built in filter around 1000 Hz, I too prefer a higher pitched tone. I guess that is because I learned the code with a