Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-14 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de w...@w5ov.com Enviado el: Lunes, 13 de Diciembre de 2010 04:03 p.m. Para: John_N1JM CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10 I operated the 10m contest this weekend with my K3 and I did have the preamp

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-14 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de w...@w5ov.com Enviado el: Lunes, 13 de Diciembre de 2010 04:03 p.m. Para: John_N1JM CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10 I operated the 10m contest this weekend with my K3 and I did have the preamp on. In that condition, I heard a lot more

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-14 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
: guyk...@gmail.com [mailto:guyk...@gmail.com] En nombre de Guy Olinger K2AV Enviado el: Martes, 14 de Diciembre de 2010 01:34 p.m. Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM CC: w...@w5ov.com; John_N1JM; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10 Hi Jorge, If you are listening to weak signals on 10m

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-14 Thread Wayne Burdick
Jorge, The K3 has outstanding dynamic range even with the preamp on. 73, Wayne N6KR Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: Hi Guy, Thanks for the suggestion. Will try 10 mts with the PRE next time I go to the station. Unfortunately I didn´t tried it during the contest. On low bands sometimes I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-14 Thread Guido Tedeschi
To be compared with K3 with PRE OFF, the TS-850 must be with AIP set to ON 73 de Guido, ik2bcp 2010/12/14 Jorge Diez - CX6VM cx6vm.jo...@adinet.com.uy: Hi Guy, Thanks for the suggestion. Will try 10 mts with the PRE next time I go to the station. Unfortunately I didn´t tried it during the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-14 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
...@w5ov.com; John_N1JM; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10 Hi Jorge, If you are listening to weak signals on 10m with a K3, the PRE should be on.  It's really required unless your local 10m ambient noise is terrible. The FT1000MP built in this change in sensitivity, so

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-14 Thread w5ov
. Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM CC: w...@w5ov.com; John_N1JM; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10 Hi Jorge, If you are listening to weak signals on 10m with a K3, the PRE should be on. It's really required unless your local 10m ambient noise is terrible. The FT1000MP

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-14 Thread Edward R. Cole
I have the 6m ARR P50VDG Gasfet preamp and KVX3. I wondered if the P50VDG may have gain at 28-MHz? I entered 28.400 and alternated between the P50VDG and the internal PRE. There were no signals to check this on but with white noise the P50VDG shows slightly less s-meter reading than the

[Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello, well, I read some emails here about K3 performance in 10 mts band but really I never tested it carefully. We started ARRL10 with the K3, very poor condx in the morning, good in the afternoon. Second day in the morning we didn´t heard any signal in 10 mts. Some of the guest operators

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread John_N1JM
Noticed that here, too, in Arizona using a TS-480. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-in-ARRL10-tp5830988p5831027.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread Barry N1EU
This seems to come up every year after the ARRL 10M contest. Perhaps an extra 10dB of i.f. gain on 10M could be programmed into dsp firmware. 73, Barry N1EU Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: We heard two or three very weak signals from PY in the TS850 that were not heard in the K3.. -- View

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
If these reports are correct, then additional I.F. gain isn't the answer. If weak signals aren't being heard, it's because the signal/noise (S/N) ratio isn't as good on 10 as it is with the comparison rig. If so, something's wrong with the K3 in question. It's simple to check a K3 for adequate

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread Barry N1EU
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: If these reports are correct, then additional I.F. gain isn't the answer. In the past, I resorted to going into CONFIG FLx Gain and dialing it up and that helped a lot. IF Gain WAS the answer for me. However, I understand that some folks are resorting to external

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread Wes Stewart
Comments in-line. --- On Mon, 12/13/10, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: If these reports are correct, then additional I.F. gain isn't the answer. If weak signals aren't being heard, it's because the signal/noise (S/N) ratio isn't as good on 10 as it is with the comparison rig. True.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread John_N1JM
Even though I do get a rise in band noise going from dummy load to antenna, I still hear weak signals on my 480 that I don't hear on the K3 on 10 meters SSB. Not sure about cw (what's cw?) :-). Assuming my K3 is set up properly, I would hate to crank up the IF gain just for 10 meters. -- View

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
And Barry reports that additional I.F. gain does help him on some signals, at least. Your reports suggest that something in the receiver chain is degrading the S/N ratio at lower signal levels. If the degradation is in the second I.F. then additional first I.F. gain would help. I've never seen

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Interesting, Barry. Tnx for the feedback. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: If these reports are correct, then additional I.F. gain isn't the answer. In the past, I resorted to going into CONFIG FLx Gain and dialing it up and that helped a lot. IF Gain WAS

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in ARRL10

2010-12-13 Thread w5ov
I operated the 10m contest this weekend with my K3 and I did have the preamp on. In that condition, I heard a lot more than apparently could hear me. If this could be quantified some way, perhaps we could get away from just comparing opinions? de W5OV Even though I do get a rise in band noise