Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-26 Thread Jim Rogers
To: Harry Yingst hlyin...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project Nice post Harry. And did you notice still no technical backup? Gary Mitchelson NC3Z Davidsonville, MD FM18 NC3Z/4 Pamlico County, NC FM15 www.mitchelson.org

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Rick Prather
Gary, Now I remember why I only rarely post on this list. Rick K6LE Not an engineer Not a retired expert in anything Just a ham. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Gary - NC3Z nc3z.g...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion much, much better words should of been choose than seriously misguided, they

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,1/25/2015 5:20 AM, Gary - NC3Z wrote: In my opinion much, much better words should of been choose than seriously misguided, they have connotations that one is an idiot. Seriously misguided would be trying to run a 12V device off 120V. Why? If an idea is seriously misguided, saying so

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Mark, KE6BB via Elecraft
Rick wrote:  Now I remember why I only rarely post on this list... Same here, Rick.  I monitor this list to receive information from Elecraft, and to see what problems others are having with their radios.   I have little interest in most of the technical discussions, since they can rapidly

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Gary - NC3Z
In my opinion much, much better words should of been choose than seriously misguided, they have connotations that one is an idiot. Seriously misguided would be trying to run a 12V device off 120V. I would of loved to see some data/research/reference as to why this wont work, there are a

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project You could start with these two, read “close miking” in the Wikipedia article. The second article is about speech recording for oral historians, so that is fairly applicable to voice communications

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Walter Underwood
@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project You could start with these two, read “close miking” in the Wikipedia article. The second article is about speech recording for oral historians, so

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Walter Underwood
via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Can you please provide a reference for this? From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project On Sun,1/25/2015 5:20 AM

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread riese-k3djc
^there is a good article in this months QST on building a mike suitable for a K3,KX3 Bob K3DJC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
Can you please provide a reference for this? From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project On Sun,1/25/2015 5:20 AM, Gary - NC3Z wrote: In my opinion much, much

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-25 Thread Bill Blomgren (kk4qdz) via Elecraft
...@audiosystemsgroup.com j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project Can you please provide a reference for this?       From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-24 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
never work but did.Though my favorite was when I flew RC aircraft and we had a Guy who against all convention used One Bladed Props. From: Gary - NC3Z nc3z.g...@gmail.com To: Harry Yingst hlyin...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-24 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,1/24/2015 5:13 AM, Gary - NC3Z wrote: Guys it is a project! No need to be throwing out personal statements like that! Sorry for being misguided guess I wont make that mistake again here! Misguided is not a personal statement. it is advice from someone who knows how microphones and

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-24 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I want to point out one thing about all of this It's AMATEUR Radio. Last week another list member was hammered on for finding a Bug that even I could replicate here. (Strangely I do not recall anyone making a public apology to that man). So the guy here made a mic and it worked for him and he

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-24 Thread Walter Underwood
all convention used One Bladed Props. From: Gary - NC3Z nc3z.g...@gmail.com To: Harry Yingst hlyin...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project Nice post Harry. And did you notice still no technical backup? Gary

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-24 Thread dyarnes
Gary and all, Whoa! Gary! Don’t get your knickers in a knot. Jim was NOT making a “personal statement”, as you suggest. He was, however, making a definitive comment based on knowledge and experience. That’s all! It would make no sense for him to make some “wishy-washy” critique of your

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-24 Thread Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project I’m confused. “Misguided” means that someone is headed in a wrong direction. Sharing expertise to help someone out shouldn’t require an apology. Should I apologize for being

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-24 Thread Gary - NC3Z
Guys it is a project! No need to be throwing out personal statements like that! Sorry for being misguided guess I wont make that mistake again here! Gary Mitchelson NC3Z Davidsonville, MD FM18 NC3Z/4 Pamlico County, NC FM15 www.mitchelson.org On 1/23/2015 9:19 PM, Jim Brown wrote: You are

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-23 Thread Gary K9GS
Just curious...what is the point of paralleling 4 microphone elements? On 1/22/2015 10:44 AM, Gary - NC3Z wrote: I wanted a desk mic to go along with my KX3 station. Wanted something more portable than the Heil boom and mic I use on my other radio. I have experimented with dynamic mics

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-23 Thread Walter Underwood
I can’t imagine that paralleling four elements would make a big difference. It would be more directional at higher frequencies. A 2x2 array would be about 20mm across, which is one wavelength at 17000Hz. That would start to be directional, because angled waves would cancel out. wunder K6WRU

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-23 Thread Gary K9GS
Others have commented on the directivity problems with paralleling microphone elements. Regarding the gain that you mentioned, any electret element is going to have a very high output. Much more than the K3 needs. The K3 can effectively handle just about any microphone. On 1/23/2015 6:50

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-23 Thread Gary - NC3Z
Provides more gain and improves the SNR. Gary Mitchelson NC3Z Davidsonville, MD FM18 NC3Z/4 Pamlico County, NC FM15 www.mitchelson.org On 1/23/2015 7:33 PM, Gary K9GS wrote: Just curious...what is the point of paralleling 4 microphone elements? On 1/22/2015 10:44 AM, Gary - NC3Z wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-23 Thread Jim Brown
You are seriously misguided. Your combination of mics won't do that, and they WILL make a mess of the sound they pick up. The only thing to be gained by combining microphones is directivity, doing that is VERY difficult, and microphones that provide directivity are common and inexpensive.

[Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

2015-01-22 Thread Gary - NC3Z
I wanted a desk mic to go along with my KX3 station. Wanted something more portable than the Heil boom and mic I use on my other radio. I have experimented with dynamic mics on the KX3 and didn't get the results I liked but did get very nice results with using 4 CUI electret condenser mic