Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-28 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Forgive me, Eric, for adding one more post to this thread, but this is not to reignite the "why are we still using RS232" question. Rather, nobody has mentioned one good reason to use an Ethernet to serial adapter. It extends the range to several hundred feet, something neither RS232 nor USB c

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Let's end this thread now to reduce list noise level. Its drifting way OT. Must be a poor DX day.. ;-) 73, Eric Elecraft List Moderator --- www.elecraft.com On 11/27/2012 6:18 PM, Phil Kane wrote: On 11/27/2012 4:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Yes. I just had to replace the old tower

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Phil Kane
On 11/27/2012 4:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > Yes. I just had to replace the old tower with a new one. I told the > "computer boys" who we deal with to put a "real" RS-232 port in it. I > should have told them "Two please." I have 7 in a 2 y/o Dell Precision (high end) tower - "COM1" on the m

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Joshua Mesilane
This is not exactly true. RS232 is still widely used over long haul RF links, telemetry and scads systems. Why? It's reliable, it just works, you don't have to stuff around with drivers or custom software and its a self recovering system. USB is a vendor driven platform. There are very few "uni

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Fred Jensen
Yes. I just had to replace the old tower with a new one. I told the "computer boys" who we deal with to put a "real" RS-232 port in it. I should have told them "Two please." On 11/27/2012 2:59 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: I don't think there are any new laptop computers with RS223 ports. Are th

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Bill Frantz
Thanks to the many people, both on and off the list, who pointed out current uses of RS-232 in industrial systems and datacenters and the limited availability of RS-232 interfaces on new computers including laptops. Indeed, there is nothing that is completely obsolete in electronics and compute

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread David Christ
This has gone in a direction I was afraid it might and tried to forestall. My only intent was to mention an affordable device that would allow you to have an RS-232 connector at a remote location. Thought it might give some ideas and options to those who wanted to easily control devices at a di

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Mark Bayern
> As far as I can tell, hams are the only users of RS-232 left. Wrong. There are still many industrial devices that use RS-232 and many many more that use RS-422/485. > (RS-232 has > the wonderful advantage of making it easy to build interfaces.) >From an RF point of view, serial connections hav

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Chuck N4XS
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Frantz > > ...I don't think there are any new laptop computers with RS223 ports. > Are there any desktops/towers? ... The most recent shipment of Dell Optiplex (business desktops) I bought have serial ports. Dell Latitude notebooks have an available snap-

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Bill Frantz
I would say there are many many more computer to computer connections over TCP than over RS-232. And many more over PPPoE . As far as I can tell, hams are the only users of RS-232 left. (RS-232 has the wonderful advantage of ma

Re: [Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, I would submit that RS-232 is still the common denominator for point to point computer communications. No licenses, no registration, no unique IP addresses, just "communicate". That converter from Ethernet to RS-232 may prove to be useful, but most radio gear will continue to use RS-

[Elecraft] OT Ethernet/RS-232

2012-11-27 Thread David Christ
Not wanting to resurrect the why still RS-232 arguments I still thought this looked interesting. Didn't investigate enough to see if it would work with a K3. Thought there might be someone who would find it useful for something. There is also a multiple