RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Stephanie, VA3UXB wrote: I don't think I ever got the hang of the prosigns... I got the AR. To me, BT is a dash (-) but I don't know if that's correct or not. I sometimes get the ',' and '?' confused. The / character I know well, because I always hear it on our local repeater ident, and

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
David G4DMP wrote: I don't know that one, Ron; we don't have Euros in the UK ;-) But don't forget the new one for @ for use in e-mail addresses @di-dah-dah-di-dah-dit - Yeah, that's what started the thread so I left it out. It's also the easiest for

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Darwin, Keith
Ron AC7AC Said: --> This is a list of the prosigns I'm familiar with: BK - Invite receiving station to transmit CQ - Calling any amateur radio station SOS Distress < Hold on a second (AS) there Ron :-) My understanding is that BK, CQ and SOS are

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Morrow
Kieth wrote: >Hold on a second (AS) there Ron :-) My understanding is that BK, CQ and >SOS are not to be sent with no space but as individual letters complete >with the proper space around them. There's the **biggest** mistake in Morse telegraphy! SOS is ALWAYS to be sent with NO space between

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: Mike Morrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Darwin, Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Elecraft Discussion List Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:49:34 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse) >As for BK, that is two le

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Keith, KD1E, wrote: Hold on a second (AS) there Ron :-) My understanding is that BK, CQ and SOS are not to be sent with no space but as individual letters complete with the proper space around them. Isn't merging the BK or CQ together is just sloppy sending? --- Ya' mad

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: Ron D'Eau Claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Elecraft Discussion List' Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:37:44 -0800 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse) >One might ask what is CQ an >abbreviation of? Some say it&

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF
If CQ is a prosign, i.e. a single character without embedded space, please explain how I should pronounce it such using 'phone modes. Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: One might ask what is CQ an abbreviation of? Some say it's a phonetic "seek you" but I've never heard a single plausible explanation of

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Jim, N2EY wrote: (CQ is) a two-letter abbreviation like QRZ. -- But neither of them are abbreviations (i.e. shortened words). CQ has no credible meaning as an abbreviation that I've ever seen. QRZ is one of the common "Q" codes that are sent as three distinct letters. The

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Nigel, G8IFF/KC8NHF wrote: If CQ is a prosign, i.e. a single character without embedded space, please explain how I should pronounce it such using 'phone modes. - Dah-di-dah-di-dah-dah-di-dah? Seriously, once you go to non-CW modes, all bets are off. Obviously

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Thom R LaCosta
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF wrote: If CQ is a prosign, i.e. a single character without embedded space, please explain how I should pronounce it such using 'phone modes. One of the local credit unions, SECU uses the sound of SeeQue in their commercials. I suppose you cou

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Folks, I think we are all getting mixed mesages here - when to use a letter space, and when not to is the question. I checked the table in my 1994 ARRL Handbook for CW abbreviations and prosigns (the new handbooks have eliminated this info for some reason!). Earlier handbooks just listed the dots

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
> -Original Message- > > The 'prosigns' listed in 1994 are: QRL?, CQ, AR, K, KN, BK, R, AS, SK, and > CL - but the only ones indicated to be sent without a space (as one > character) are AR, KN, AS, and SK - all others are indicated as being sent > as 2 or more letters (indicated with a b

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 1/12/06 1:18:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Jim, N2EY wrote: > > (CQ is) a two-letter abbreviation like QRZ. > > -- > > But neither of them are abbreviations (i.e. shortened words). An abbreviation isn't always a shortened

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread K3yt
Hi, the "lb" for pound comes from Spanish(and its close Latin)"libra" meaning pound. 73 de Bob K3YT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub et

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-13 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF
/Comes from the Latin libra pondo or //libra pendere Libra eaning scales or balance and pondo or pendrer being a roughly equivalent weight of those days. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An abbreviation isn't always a shortened word - how did we get "lb" as an abbreviation for "pound"? ___

[Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata))

2006-01-11 Thread Stephanie Maks
I don't think I ever got the hang of the prosigns... I got the AR. To me, BT is a dash (-) but I don't know if that's correct or not. I sometimes get the ',' and '?' confused. The / character I know well, because I always hear it on our local repeater ident, and it it's in my beacon's i